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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #40 on: 08 November 2021, 10:26 »
The internal simplification of interiors on the new generation VW cars is more to do with using less parts towards “carbon neutrality”.

Actually, I'd say it was reduction in build time...

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2021-11-04/vw-ceo-tells-german-workers-tesla-factory-will-threaten-jobs

Tesla managing to build a car in one third of the time/labour an ID3 takes...

Guess what, that's because the Tesla has less bits to fit...

In 10 years Tesla will actually be a threat, but for now they really need to work on their build quality they aren't up with their rivals yet, they skip steps that others don't.

That's if they don't bankrupt themselves before then... If it weren't for Diesel Gate the Ford Volkswagen electric program would really put an end to Tesla imo.

I simply could not cope with such a spartan and minimalist cabin, the single screen interior frankly horrifies me,
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #41 on: 08 November 2021, 10:35 »
Had a good think over the weekend and have come to the conclusion that need to completely abandon what have previously done coming up to a change where increasingly narrowed what were pretty clear options up to the final decision.

So going to clear my head, and be open to all options, and not even think about it till see what the system has as available to me, as thats the first hurdle that is less clear than any change previously.

So this change could literally be anything!

If really flummoxed can genuinely see myself going back in time and running a 10 year old GTI before the EV really rule the planet.

System opens up in March so will likely ask for thoughts and feedback on what will be a definitive list of cars but till then going to save myself from the usual back and forth (which usually enjoy) before press the order button.
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #42 on: 08 November 2021, 14:33 »
Had a good think over the weekend and have come to the conclusion that need to completely abandon what have previously done coming up to a change where increasingly narrowed what were pretty clear options up to the final decision.

So going to clear my head, and be open to all options, and not even think about it till see what the system has as available to me, as thats the first hurdle that is less clear than any change previously.

So this change could literally be anything!

If really flummoxed can genuinely see myself going back in time and running a 10 year old GTI before the EV really rule the planet.

System opens up in March so will likely ask for thoughts and feedback on what will be a definitive list of cars but till then going to save myself from the usual back and forth (which usually enjoy) before press the order button.

My PCP is up in June next year and I honestly have no idea what I'm going to do

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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #43 on: 08 November 2021, 16:13 »
My PCP is up in June next year and I honestly have no idea what I'm going to do

If you haven't ordered already you might find you need to extend it.... VWFS will give you another up to 6 months
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #44 on: 08 November 2021, 16:17 »
Had a good think over the weekend and have come to the conclusion that need to completely abandon what have previously done coming up to a change where increasingly narrowed what were pretty clear options up to the final decision.

So going to clear my head, and be open to all options, and not even think about it till see what the system has as available to me, as thats the first hurdle that is less clear than any change previously.

So this change could literally be anything!

If really flummoxed can genuinely see myself going back in time and running a 10 year old GTI before the EV really rule the planet.

System opens up in March so will likely ask for thoughts and feedback on what will be a definitive list of cars but till then going to save myself from the usual back and forth (which usually enjoy) before press the order button.

My PCP is up in June next year and I honestly have no idea what I'm going to do

Though have always have had to ponder, its always been over the fine details, with in reality there not being a wrong choice, just preference, given the pool of cars that are out there at the time to choose from,

Just does not feel the same this go around, nothing really pulling at me, exciting me, the offerings looking more like for like than ever, and uncertainty over which would even be available and just had the discussion with wife that if feel that just having to settle for something and there is no flicker of anticipation and excitement, then might step back in time for next couple of years into a modern classic type thing, maybe a GTI MK 6, especially as have done quite a few long runs across the length and breadth of country in recent times and less likely to do again for sometime, do do see my miles dropping from the usual 9000, to maybe 6,000.

We shall see, but definitely be surprising myself when whatever the outcome is finally concludes.



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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #45 on: 08 November 2021, 16:19 »
My PCP is up in June next year and I honestly have no idea what I'm going to do

If you haven't ordered already you might find you need to extend it.... VWFS will give you another up to 6 months

Said to my lease company should we not be ordering earlier than March for an October exchange and they said they are monitoring and at this time the lead time to order will remain unchanged. Wonder if there is some priority for certain lease companies as part of contracts?
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #46 on: 19 November 2021, 10:10 »
Sorry, but this seems to me a lot more like a £50k small car than a specced up R.
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #47 on: 19 November 2021, 10:49 »
Sorry, but this seems to me a lot more like a £50k small car than a specced up R.
https://youtu.be/wXzXO_qpCZs

I would like an RS 3 have to admit but by time finished playing with the RS 3 want it would likely be well into £60 k territory and thats me out as other things in life need some of that £

In a funny place with how feel about cars at moment, enjoying my TCR more as very relaxed about it as resigned to it being handed back next October and have no real thinking to what the replacement is aside from taking the cash over the company car and get something second hand.
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #48 on: 19 November 2021, 10:53 »
Just does not feel the same this go around, nothing really pulling at me, exciting me, the offerings looking more like for like than ever, and uncertainty over which would even be available and just had the discussion with wife that if feel that just having to settle for something and there is no flicker of anticipation and excitement, then might step back in time for next couple of years into a modern classic type thing, maybe a GTI MK 6, especially as have done quite a few long runs across the length and breadth of country in recent times and less likely to do again for sometime, do do see my miles dropping from the usual 9000, to maybe 6,000.

We shall see, but definitely be surprising myself when whatever the outcome is finally concludes.

If nothing it pulling you towards something new, I'd stick with your TCR. When you drop back into a mk5/mk6 golf you notice a lot of differences, not a bad thing but there's a large contrast. IMO the TCR is one of the best modern cars on the road at the minute and that's why nothing jumps out at you with the only logical next step being that of a hyper hatch M135i or A35/A45 or else you move into the more expensive offerings of F-series M3/M4. (Maintenance wise, not cost somehow)

But if you're looking for the best car for everyday you're currently driving it, unless you want to move large things often then it's a M340D  :wink:
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Re: You don’t fancy an 8R?
« Reply #49 on: 19 November 2021, 11:25 »
Just does not feel the same this go around, nothing really pulling at me, exciting me, the offerings looking more like for like than ever, and uncertainty over which would even be available and just had the discussion with wife that if feel that just having to settle for something and there is no flicker of anticipation and excitement, then might step back in time for next couple of years into a modern classic type thing, maybe a GTI MK 6, especially as have done quite a few long runs across the length and breadth of country in recent times and less likely to do again for sometime, do do see my miles dropping from the usual 9000, to maybe 6,000.

We shall see, but definitely be surprising myself when whatever the outcome is finally concludes.

If nothing it pulling you towards something new, I'd stick with your TCR. When you drop back into a mk5/mk6 golf you notice a lot of differences, not a bad thing but there's a large contrast. IMO the TCR is one of the best modern cars on the road at the minute and that's why nothing jumps out at you with the only logical next step being that of a hyper hatch M135i or A35/A45 or else you move into the more expensive offerings of F-series M3/M4. (Maintenance wise, not cost somehow)

But if you're looking for the best car for everyday you're currently driving it, unless you want to move large things often then it's a M340D  :wink:

The TCR is on company lease and intention was to buy at end of the term as its best car driven to date thats in my possession, but if the inflated prices stick through to next October its likely to be £30 k + they ask and not paying that especially as market will eventually settle and there is likely an accelerated depreciation as new cars on back log flood the market and the used cars stock spikes 

For example, colleague was quoted £16 k on a STronic Audi A3 sometime before her renewal they have just quoted her £21 k now its time to decide. So she bailing on the company car also.

I know the MK 6 will have its limitations in comparison to the TCR across the board, but my mileage is likely to drop quite a bit and actually thinking that it be nice to step back in time to a really clean buy, before we all have to submit to the EV world and smart interiors.
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- 2nd car: 2019 Golf R DSG Pure White 19" Black Pretoria, Privacy Glass, Rear View Camera, Dynaudio, Keyless
- 2019 Pure Grey GTI TCR 5 Door DSG Reifinitz Wheel DCC Climate Screen 90% Tint
- 2016 Lapiz Blue Golf R 5 Door DSG Pretoria DCC
- 2013 Pure White GTD 5 Door DSG DCC