« Reply #124 on: 27 January 2021, 17:17 »
Things can be left as they for me. A GTi doesn't need 300bhp. That's for the enthusiasts, not the typical GTi driver that has no intention of ever taking it anywhere near a track.
I'd bet the majority of GTi buyers don't visit forums such as this one, and most won't know exactly how fast it is to 60mph. They'll have bought/leased it simply because it's a GTi and that's something with heritage and a reputation. It makes no commercial sense to remove the GTi as one of VW's most renowned cars from the mainstream market and aim it at enthusiasts instead. 🤷♂️
Wholeheartedly agreed.
Half the reason there’s always been such a cult following of GTI’s is that they’re ‘good enough’ out of the box for Joe (or Jo) Average and they are so easy to subtly modify for a bit extra in any direction one wishes which brings in a whole different spectrum of owners that want a little more but don’t want Type R or Megane Trophy levels.
The R is something different altogether and lightweight never a consideration.
Ve haf 4WD so we just throw more power at it ja?
And it’s the R that needs to build heritage now as the GTI looks like it’s down a blind alley as a FWD ICE car.

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