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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #40 on: 14 October 2020, 10:29 »
Actually, yes, the VW thing does say DCC is optional.

Top Gear version of the story here:

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/surprise-its-new-vw-golf-gti-clubsport

I noticed one of the reader comments points out something I'd missed... in the photos the wheel spoke design has directional elements... which point forward on one side and backwards on the other.... probably pretty normal for all cars, but now I've seen it I can't unsee it.... OCD time!
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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #41 on: 14 October 2020, 10:36 »
My guess is we will see a Clubsport S and an attempt at the record again for the 45th?

Good guess I reckon
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« Reply #42 on: 14 October 2020, 10:50 »
I'm not sure the press releases are always bang on accurate for the UK market. They appear to just be translated from German and then copied and pasted.

For example the standard GTi was said to come with 17 inch wheels. We now know that wasn't correct. I think unfortunately we need to wait for VWUK to pull their finger out   :whistle:
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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #43 on: 14 October 2020, 10:54 »
Actually, yes, the VW thing does say DCC is optional.

Top Gear version of the story here:

https://www.topgear.com/car-news/hot-hatch/surprise-its-new-vw-golf-gti-clubsport

I noticed one of the reader comments points out something I'd missed... in the photos the wheel spoke design has directional elements... which point forward on one side and backwards on the other.... probably pretty normal for all cars, but now I've seen it I can't unsee it.... OCD time!

That’s pretty much always been the case - not just VW but other car manufacturers too. I doubt many manufacturers will have left-handed and right-handed versions of directional alloys - it would add to production costs, and it would probably be necessary to make more of one version (the kerbside version) than the other as kerbside wheels would be more likely to suffer damage.

With the mk7 / mk7.5 Golf, Austin’s, Parker’s, Reifnitz (there may be other designs too) all have directional elements to their spokes, as does the standard 18” Richmond alloys on the mk8 Golf GTI.

I had a 1986 Escort XR3i that had directional alloys. The ‘Pirelli’ alloys on the mk2 Golf GTI from the same era were also directional.

I have car OCD but directional alloys have never bothered me, after all, you can only see one side of the car at any one time.
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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #44 on: 14 October 2020, 11:14 »
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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #45 on: 14 October 2020, 13:14 »
Some interesting points here according to this article:

1) the standard Mk8 GTI doesn't have the LSD (I thought that was the case...)
2) the standard Mk8 GTI doesn't have Mk7.5 PP sized brakes (I thought that was the case...)
3) there will be no manual Mk8 clubsport
4) it doesn't have the rubbish foglights (doesn't say that is because of extra radiators like the R tho)
5) All that extra power only sees it being 0.2s quicker to 60mph...
6) You need 98 RON fuel (the M135i doesn't use 98 does it?)

I think it looks much better than the Mk8 GTI. Can't quite put a finger on it. Think its that front grill with the extra angled pieces. Looks much more aggressive than the lazy wide mouthed frog look of the rest of the Mk8's.

It is £3,500 more than a Mk8 GTI though - £39k without options.... which will make the Mk8 R.... £42k???

Not clear if it comes with DCC for that price either, certainly it doesn't come with 19's as standard.

Edit: it does come with DCC as standard, so thats 900 quid of the 3500 quid.

Yes there definitely seemed to be some contradictions from what I also thought was case regarding tech spec for Mk8 GTI.

I thought VW were being nice and DCC was standard and then read press release saying it was optional.

Press release states 18” 5 spoke alloys so I am guessing it’s the standard (UK) Richmond wheels. Although I like their design I seem to have now gone off them a bit. don,t like the 19 option in the press photos. so hoping there might be another option.

On the 98 Ron fuel, it’ll be usual story that you can run on 95 but you just won’t get full performance.

Don’t think they(VW) have announced performance details and the info I’ve read says “under 6secs” so it should be close or lower than TCR.

I think the clubsport does have a better look than normal GTI and it is down to the revised lower grille. the GTI was just too long and rectangular and those fog lights

I am not sure where they got extra £3500 over normal DSG GTI from. If you ignore Akra Exhaust from mk7 TCR the price difference was £1660 if I remember correctly (taken from pricelist May 2020).

I think more likely to be about £37k. Golf R then sneak about £39k well that is what I am hoping.



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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #46 on: 14 October 2020, 14:34 »
Maybe they will do a Cs-S for the 45th, I have slight doubts on the basis they have included a "special" mode with Nurburgring settings on the mk8 CS.
This was effectively a "hack" mode on the mk7 Cs-S. I would have thought they would keep that mode for the fanfare of the ring record breaker?

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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #47 on: 14 October 2020, 15:30 »
Just found another key difference in the VW press release:

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the oval tailpipes of the exhaust system instead of the circular tailpipes on the normal GTI (the tailpipes are also positioned 40 mm further towards the outside

That's where the 3,500 quid was spent!
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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #48 on: 14 October 2020, 15:38 »
Some interesting points here according to this article:

1) the standard Mk8 GTI doesn't have the LSD (I thought that was the case...)
2) the standard Mk8 GTI doesn't have Mk7.5 PP sized brakes (I thought that was the case...)
3) there will be no manual Mk8 clubsport
4) it doesn't have the rubbish foglights (doesn't say that is because of extra radiators like the R tho)
5) All that extra power only sees it being 0.2s quicker to 60mph...
6) You need 98 RON fuel (the M135i doesn't use 98 does it?)

I think it looks much better than the Mk8 GTI. Can't quite put a finger on it. Think its that front grill with the extra angled pieces. Looks much more aggressive than the lazy wide mouthed frog look of the rest of the Mk8's.

It is £3,500 more than a Mk8 GTI though - £39k without options.... which will make the Mk8 R.... £42k???

Not clear if it comes with DCC for that price either, certainly it doesn't come with 19's as standard.

Edit: it does come with DCC as standard, so thats 900 quid of the 3500 quid.


A far better effort than the standard GTI as far as looks go IMO.

I’ve not been paying full attention but I can’t remember the VAQ being mentioned in reports and vids from the standard GTI now you say that. Lots of references to improved XDS but not the e-diff.

I actually quite like the GTI/GTD mk8 foglights, it’s the rest of the front I dislike, but the Clubsport (in those shots at least) works quite well. Flattering angle possibly but that applies to all of the latest generation hatches.

The 135 is recommended for 98 RON too according to my fuel flap



The Clubsport has been rushed through quite suddenly.
Wonder if that’s to counter lukewarm reception of the mk8 generally alongside the 128 reveal or whether it is  in readiness for the 45 Anni and just getting back on track with planned reveals and releases.

Going from spy shots the R will look similar to the Clubsport with the Predator Face lower bumper shape which is common to other VW group models including the Cupra Formentor, but with horizontal slats instead of honeycomb. I wonder how long we will have to wait until the R does break cover so we can see the price structure between GTI, CS and R.



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Re: Golf me 8 TCR
« Reply #49 on: 14 October 2020, 15:44 »
I'm sure there was a leaked graphic showing all the wheel options for GTI/Clubsport/R somewhere.

Be interesting to see what the forged/Cup2 option is.
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