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Offline monkeyhanger

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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #10 on: 26 December 2019, 13:27 »
I love the manual too but they do vary. My first GTI on a 63 was not as precise as my current car, changing smoothly between first and second was not consistent but this did improve when I fitted a dogbone.

They do indeed vary a lot. Seems GTI/R gearboxes around 2015 were commonly a bit crap. My May 2015 R.had a very gravelly throw and an occasional reluctance to slot into 3rd from a higher gear and and also to slot into 1st from 2nd. I had it from day one and the dealerships wouldn't do anything to check out linkage adjustment or anything else. If it weren't for that and the very poor motorway mpg due to the very low gearing, I might still have it now (kept it 46 months). The clutch was also junk - it slipped on me a few times in coldish weather at around 23k miles, completely stock car.

DSG does make you lazy at the wheel. I now have a Polo GTI+ and it only comes in DSG variant. I did try to persevere using the box manually, but it isn't the same when it's not necessary to use it manually and it often overrides your wishes as throttle input trumps your selections when you haven't slotted the lever right over. Feathering in of the gears on a DSG change for smoothness make gear changes with full engagement a lot slower than would be ideal.

I'd rather have a manual box, if it worked properly - my GTD's manual box (and all the previous VWs owned) was silky smooth in comparison to my R's.

Couple DSG with ACC controlled motorway driving and the drive is so unengaging, I feel almost redundant as a driver.

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Offline Yusee

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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #11 on: 26 December 2019, 13:51 »
My manual box has been beautifully smooth.
Except actually recently when engaging reverse from cold. Engages perfectly well when pulling out of the garage but when i try and re-engage reverse when on the driveway it sometimes doesn’t go in. I have to select first, then try again. No idea why.
Otherwise the box is excellent , i have no regrets about choosing manual.
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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #12 on: 26 December 2019, 19:42 »
I was once a manual only guy. Bought a DSG SEAT Cupra in 2010 and have never looked back. First option I tick on any VAG car now.  Absolutely fantastic, takes all the hassle out of the daily commute, saves your left knee on longer journeys, makes ACC useable (it’s pointless with a manual), accelerates faster than you could ever hope to with a manual and... if you really want to change gear yourself you still can either with the flappy paddles or the tiptronic shift. If you’ve never driven a DSG, I strongly recommend it before getting the manual box. It’s so very 1932!  :evil:
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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #13 on: 28 December 2019, 15:28 »
Thanks people, seems like the manual is a good box overall. Really can’t find many DSG cars at my budget.

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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #14 on: 28 December 2019, 16:40 »
Wait till the mk8 is on sale and the mk 7/7.5s drop a little 👍
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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #15 on: 29 December 2019, 18:09 »
Yeah I could do that to be honest ^

Going a bit off topic here, but I’ve never driven a Mk7 GTI. What is the ride quality and suspension setup like? My A3 has the Sport setup and it’s quite harsh and crashy. I’ve been passenger in a friend’s Mk7 TDI GT and it felt harsh and stiff.

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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #16 on: 29 December 2019, 18:38 »
 just get one they are fantastic  :smiley:
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Offline Mutley75

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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #17 on: 29 December 2019, 18:43 »
Yeah I could do that to be honest ^

Going a bit off topic here, but I’ve never driven a Mk7 GTI. What is the ride quality and suspension setup like? My A3 has the Sport setup and it’s quite harsh and crashy. I’ve been passenger in a friend’s Mk7 TDI GT and it felt harsh and stiff.

My previous car was a 2015 A3 S-Line on 18 inch wheels. My GTI has 19 inch without the Dynamic Chassis Control and compared to the A3, it’s like driving on tarmac coated with a layer of sponge (in a good way!). The A3 was typical Audi - hard and crashy. The GTI is sublime. I can only imagine how smooth a GTI on 18s or a 19 with DCC must ride.
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Offline fredgroves

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Re: Manual GTI opinions
« Reply #18 on: 30 December 2019, 11:37 »
I can only imagine how smooth a GTI on 18s or a 19 with DCC must ride.

My last GTD had DCC and 18's... my current one does not have DCC.

Difference? I drove on Normal 99% of the time and that feels the same.

Never liked the "comfort" setting, unless I was driving across a car park field (ploughed) because its too wallowy for me and "sport" was just bumpy for bumpy sake.

I test drove a GTD 7 years ago which had 19's and no DCC. It was OK, can't really remember it being any worse than my ones I had on 18's.

All of which basically is that a Mk7.x Golf is not a hard riding go kart, its a benign road going car...
Current: Mk8 GTI DSG, Adelaides, DCC, HUD, HK, Winter Pack, Rear Camera.. Aka "HMS Weasel"

Gone: 2017 Mk7.5 GTD,manual, NavPro
Gone: 2014 Mk7 GTD, manual, NavPro, DCC