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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #50 on: 11 June 2019, 09:08 »
Only seen snippets, not sure if that is everything or not.

One positive on missing out on the Akra is it won't take me over the 40k and increase my tax I guess.

Its just snippets from EVO, he keeping us keen, must be on a website hits commission :)

I would not see it as missing out on, as you would be paying for an option in purchase price that you would not have likely selected

The reduction in the Reifnitz Performance Pack by £300 was deliberate as it would take any purchaser immediately over the £40,000 at the original £2400 pricing - its likely the most popular pack and if select the next one up its obviously now seen as accepted you be breaking the £40,000

If want to protect that £40,000 threshold the only option left if selecting the Reifnitz would be the 90% tints, anything over £235 will break that limit

Think this change will keep the car to the enthusiast or to someone with less budget constraints and rest will place the AWD over the exhaust and take the R now instead

However, its likely build slots are running down and this change will slow the demand but still likely take up what remaining time it has left on its run

Some may get this as a freebie, about a £2000 one once adjusted the cost reduction on the reifnitz pack and its a nice to have if fall in that category but if I was wanting to purchase a TCR now I would be totally put off and I would be pushing buttons on another R

Come on EVO< drink your morning coffee, and a full list please, across the range :)
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #51 on: 11 June 2019, 09:13 »
Only seen snippets, not sure if that is everything or not.

One positive on missing out on the Akra is it won't take me over the 40k and increase my tax I guess.

Honesty, as someone who likes a leery exhaust, the TCR as it supplies has a deep resonant sound when you put your foot down. It doesn't sound forced so I wouldn't be glum about not getting it optioned.

My understanding was that the exhaust was different;y made and tuned and would bring its own sound and from hearing it in a variety of videos was more than happy - I do not actually like raucous, I like the deeper note so again I would be fine with the standard to as my immediate reaction supports

this is from the TCR literature

Stainless-steel exhaust system. The standard stainless-steel
exhaust system was also tuned for the increased performance.
The tailpipes are arranged on the left and right of the diffuser
in the rear.
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #52 on: 11 June 2019, 09:25 »
Only seen snippets, not sure if that is everything or not.

One positive on missing out on the Akra is it won't take me over the 40k and increase my tax I guess.

Honesty, as someone who likes a leery exhaust, the TCR as it supplies has a deep resonant sound when you put your foot down. It doesn't sound forced so I wouldn't be glum about not getting it optioned.

My understanding was that the exhaust was different;y made and tuned and would bring its own sound and from hearing it in a variety of videos was more than happy - I do not actually like raucous, I like the deeper note so again I would be fine with the standard to as my immediate reaction supports

this is from the TCR literature

Stainless-steel exhaust system. The standard stainless-steel
exhaust system was also tuned for the increased performance.
The tailpipes are arranged on the left and right of the diffuser
in the rear.

What I am struggling to understand is what the Akra brings to the party. Is it aesthetic and aural without power gains? I can do some spectacular man maths when it comes to cars and I'm scratching my head on this.
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #53 on: 11 June 2019, 09:29 »
This was from the website for the MK7 GTI. 

power
+8.6 kW
at 4750 rpm

torque
+16.0 Nm
at 4350 rpm

weight
-6.9 kg

Not sure what it would be for the TCR, especially with current emission rules.

The man maths would have to be strong on this I think :)
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #54 on: 11 June 2019, 09:32 »
Only seen snippets, not sure if that is everything or not.

One positive on missing out on the Akra is it won't take me over the 40k and increase my tax I guess.

Honesty, as someone who likes a leery exhaust, the TCR as it supplies has a deep resonant sound when you put your foot down. It doesn't sound forced so I wouldn't be glum about not getting it optioned.

My understanding was that the exhaust was different;y made and tuned and would bring its own sound and from hearing it in a variety of videos was more than happy - I do not actually like raucous, I like the deeper note so again I would be fine with the standard to as my immediate reaction supports

this is from the TCR literature

Stainless-steel exhaust system. The standard stainless-steel
exhaust system was also tuned for the increased performance.
The tailpipes are arranged on the left and right of the diffuser
in the rear.

What I am struggling to understand is what the Akra brings to the party. Is it aesthetic and aural without power gains? I can do some spectacular man maths when it comes to cars and I'm scratching my head on this.

Apparently its
9KW extra power
6KG lighter
+16NM torque at 4350 RPM

Which is all quite negligible - I am same, never understood the clamour and always thought nice tips (which they are) but at a huge cost! also if you genuinely happy with the stock set up that reduces clamour - I would never pay for it, either as an option or in standard pricing I would 100% have selected another R

Here is the GTI Akprapovich official promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWegI2OszzA
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #55 on: 11 June 2019, 09:38 »
This was from the website for the MK7 GTI. 

power
+8.6 kW
at 4750 rpm

torque
+16.0 Nm
at 4350 rpm

weight
-6.9 kg

Not sure what it would be for the TCR, especially with current emission rules.

The man maths would have to be strong on this I think :)

I probably didn't articulate myself clearly - I was assuming that they were not going to increase power as they'd released performance figures and gone through WLTP. Also assumed they were finely tuning it to sit under the R in the model line up.
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #56 on: 11 June 2019, 09:42 »
This was from the website for the MK7 GTI. 

power
+8.6 kW
at 4750 rpm

torque
+16.0 Nm
at 4350 rpm

weight
-6.9 kg

Not sure what it would be for the TCR, especially with current emission rules.

The man maths would have to be strong on this I think :)

I probably didn't articulate myself clearly - I was assuming that they were not going to increase power as they'd released performance figures and gone through WLTP. Also assumed they were finely tuning it to sit under the R in the model line up.

Agree, it has to meet its existing WLTP certificate so its just some nice tips and likely has a different sound -
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #57 on: 11 June 2019, 10:06 »
Only seen snippets, not sure if that is everything or not.

One positive on missing out on the Akra is it won't take me over the 40k and increase my tax I guess.

Honesty, as someone who likes a leery exhaust, the TCR as it supplies has a deep resonant sound when you put your foot down. It doesn't sound forced so I wouldn't be glum about not getting it optioned.

My understanding was that the exhaust was different;y made and tuned and would bring its own sound and from hearing it in a variety of videos was more than happy - I do not actually like raucous, I like the deeper note so again I would be fine with the standard to as my immediate reaction supports

this is from the TCR literature

Stainless-steel exhaust system. The standard stainless-steel
exhaust system was also tuned for the increased performance.
The tailpipes are arranged on the left and right of the diffuser
in the rear.

What I am struggling to understand is what the Akra brings to the party. Is it aesthetic and aural without power gains? I can do some spectacular man maths when it comes to cars and I'm scratching my head on this.

Apparently its
9KW extra power
6KG lighter
+16NM torque at 4350 RPM

Which is all quite negligible - I am same, never understood the clamour and always thought nice tips (which they are) but at a huge cost! also if you genuinely happy with the stock set up that reduces clamour - I would never pay for it, either as an option or in standard pricing I would 100% have selected another R

Here is the GTI Akprapovich official promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWegI2OszzA

Sports exhaust on the right car makes a difference but for a run out special with a bespoke exhaust already, it's hard to see the thinking behind it.

Thanks for the video. Hard to judge on a slickly produced video with lots of lightning!  :grin:


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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #58 on: 11 June 2019, 10:30 »
Only seen snippets, not sure if that is everything or not.

One positive on missing out on the Akra is it won't take me over the 40k and increase my tax I guess.

Honesty, as someone who likes a leery exhaust, the TCR as it supplies has a deep resonant sound when you put your foot down. It doesn't sound forced so I wouldn't be glum about not getting it optioned.

My understanding was that the exhaust was different;y made and tuned and would bring its own sound and from hearing it in a variety of videos was more than happy - I do not actually like raucous, I like the deeper note so again I would be fine with the standard to as my immediate reaction supports

this is from the TCR literature

Stainless-steel exhaust system. The standard stainless-steel
exhaust system was also tuned for the increased performance.
The tailpipes are arranged on the left and right of the diffuser
in the rear.

What I am struggling to understand is what the Akra brings to the party. Is it aesthetic and aural without power gains? I can do some spectacular man maths when it comes to cars and I'm scratching my head on this.

Apparently its
9KW extra power
6KG lighter
+16NM torque at 4350 RPM

Which is all quite negligible - I am same, never understood the clamour and always thought nice tips (which they are) but at a huge cost! also if you genuinely happy with the stock set up that reduces clamour - I would never pay for it, either as an option or in standard pricing I would 100% have selected another R

Here is the GTI Akprapovich official promo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fWegI2OszzA

Sports exhaust on the right car makes a difference but for a run out special with a bespoke exhaust already, it's hard to see the thinking behind it.

Thanks for the video. Hard to judge on a slickly produced video with lots of lightning!  :grin:

Yes, very promo! but it had the figures in there, though as stated they quite pointless

This video better on a clubsport, though not quite sure if even same exhaust that would be fitted as tips are different from what seen on TCR

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5TF7CCm3iU
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- 2019 Pure Grey GTI TCR 5 Door DSG Reifinitz Wheel DCC Climate Screen 90% Tint
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Re: MY20.....
« Reply #59 on: 11 June 2019, 13:13 »
The reduction in the Reifnitz Performance Pack by £300 was deliberate as it would take any purchaser immediately over the £40,000 at the original £2400 pricing - its likely the most popular pack and if select the next one up its obviously now seen as accepted you be breaking the £40,000

If want to protect that £40,000 threshold the only option left if selecting the Reifnitz would be the 90% tints, anything over £235 will break that limit
Not true. The £40k+ luxury tax is calculated on the List/RRP before OTR costs. The TCR has OTR costs of £1220, so a TCR can't exceed £41,220 OTR if the buyer wants to avoid the luxury tax. A MY20 TCR + the Reifnitz Pack is £39,765 on the Road (according to DTD), there's so still some wiggle room to add a few more options such as paint and Dynaudio.
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