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Offline fredgroves

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VW Predictive Cruise
« on: 27 September 2018, 16:53 »
Fairly sure we'll see this on the Mk8:

https://www.carmagazine.co.uk/car-news/tech/vw-predictive-cruise-control/

Sounds a little scary to me at the moment - and I am normally quite into advanced tech...
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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #1 on: 27 September 2018, 21:30 »
I really don't want that. So "it's not infallable" is the excuse for it not working properly. Is that going to be the answer when fully autonomous cars start running people over or driving into walls/off cliffs etc? I'm happy to remain a luddite.
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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #2 on: 27 September 2018, 22:06 »
Just wait until cars with this are out of warranty and some clown decides to fix it him/herself. Until this tech is good enough so it can legally get me home from the pub to save me taxi fare and not be considered drink-driving, i'm not interested.

I was behind a works van briefly tonight that had its brake lights wired to the reversing lights (and presumably vice-versa, but didn't hang around long enough to see them engage reverse).
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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #3 on: 28 September 2018, 09:42 »
So "it's not infallable" is the excuse for it not working properly. Is that going to be the answer when fully autonomous cars start running people over or driving into walls/off cliffs etc?

Well, this system is still far from fully autonomous and even if you said it was an advance, its not actually an advance into the direction that fully autonomous technology will use.

This is still just a relatively dumb feedback loop.

I'd have loved them to have managed to find a brand new piece of road, one without the VW map updated.... and see what happens. I suspect, carnage.
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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #4 on: 28 September 2018, 10:35 »
Just wait until cars with this are out of warranty and some clown decides to fix it him/herself. Until this tech is good enough so it can legally get me home from the pub to save me taxi fare and not be considered drink-driving, i'm not interested.

Luckily it will not be like that as even a full autonomous car needs a sober driver that can take over in an emergency so the same rules apply as the ones to the lump of meat behind the wheel now.

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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #5 on: 28 September 2018, 11:18 »
Fully autonomous will require AI, and when that happens its the end of the world, just look at Terminator and the Matrix, this is just the start people..

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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #6 on: 28 September 2018, 12:30 »
Fully autonomous will require AI, and when that happens its the end of the world, just look at Terminator and the Matrix, this is just the start people..
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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #7 on: 28 September 2018, 14:41 »
So "it's not infallable" is the excuse for it not working properly. Is that going to be the answer when fully autonomous cars start running people over or driving into walls/off cliffs etc?

Well, this system is still far from fully autonomous and even if you said it was an advance, its not actually an advance into the direction that fully autonomous technology will use.

This is still just a relatively dumb feedback loop.

Even more reason to be nervous....
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Re: VW Predictive Cruise
« Reply #8 on: 28 September 2018, 17:53 »
Fully autonomous will require AI, and when that happens its the end of the world, just look at Terminator and the Matrix, this is just the start people..

Just being serious (for once), the "AI" however advanced it gets for cars is still just a massive logic calculation. Whilst it might be able to learn new situations and from mistakes (by networking with other autonomous vehicles, which btw is a long way off yet but certainly coming, swarm behaviors are the latest thing in weapons tech) it can't imagine new ones for itself. It can't for example imagine that its life would be longer if it moved to a warmer climate :D

True artificial intelligence is maybe never possible, which is why when someone says "AI" when they mean a simple logic test on a limited amount of data, it annoys me somewhat! Like this predictive cruise...
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