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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #30 on: 24 August 2018, 12:44 »
I suspect the more tech they put into the Mk8 the longer we may have to wait for the performance models.

As someone else said, early models of an ‘all new’ car usually have issues.

I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.

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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #31 on: 24 August 2018, 19:01 »
I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.

What is WLTP?

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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #32 on: 24 August 2018, 19:46 »
I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.

What is WLTP?

This;

http://wltpfacts.eu/what-is-wltp-how-will-it-work/
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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #33 on: 24 August 2018, 19:47 »
I also wonder what effect WLTP will have on performance models. Manufactures might have to focus more on efficiency than performance.

What is WLTP?

World Harmonised Light Vehicle Test Procedure - the new fuel consumption and CO2/pollutant emissions testing procedure which is based on real driving data, so more realistic mpg and CO2 figures than those previously published by motor manufacturers for their vehicles that were created under laboratory conditions using the previous NEDC test procedures.

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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #34 on: 24 August 2018, 20:18 »
This is good news though isn't it? Real world mpg figures. I only do about 5k miles a year so MPG not a huge issue for me personally but understand for some people it's more important.

Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW  :whistle:

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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #35 on: 24 August 2018, 20:46 »
This is good news though isn't it? Real world mpg figures. I only do about 5k miles a year so MPG not a huge issue for me personally but understand for some people it's more important.

Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW  :whistle:

It’s not good news if you’ve ordered a new car and that particular car hasn’t been type approved under WLTP yet; it means you’ve got a potentially long waiting time.

According to VW’s website, no Golf models have got WLTP type approval yet.
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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #36 on: 24 August 2018, 20:47 »
This is good news though isn't it? Real world mpg figures. I only do about 5k miles a year so MPG not a huge issue for me personally but understand for some people it's more important.

Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW  :whistle:

Is it? No matter how they test them, nothing will guarantee what economy any one individual will get. As it happens, the current figures for my car are not far off what I can actually obtain so I have no complaints. Driving styles and individual conditions are just too variable for any test to be meaningful. And why such a downer on VW? They weren't the only ones cheating.
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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #37 on: 24 August 2018, 21:26 »
No downer on VW at all. I'm looking at getting a VW!. Post was slightly tongue in cheek after the emissions scandal.
I do think it's well overdue that consumers got "real" MPG figures.
Back to Mk8, I see VW's priority being emissions and MPG but still expect a good performance boost.
There are lots of reports of some kind of 10 second boost capability in acceleration, presumably with the battery providing that boost?


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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #38 on: 25 August 2018, 11:28 »
Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW  :whistle:

VW were the ones that were caught. Other manufactures were cheating the tests too.

After the dieselgate VW revised a lot of their MPG figures. Other manufactures may be in a much worse position with regard to WLTP.

I thought WLTP was the reason certain options had been removed i.e. manual gearbox and non-pp GTI. Didn't the Golf R loose 10hp aswell? :huh:

That's what is making me think the Mk8 may not see much increase in performance. With the focus being on efficiency.

Talking of focus - the MPG figures for the performance Ford Focus cars, are pure fantasy.


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Re: GTI Mk8 - Would you wait?
« Reply #39 on: 27 August 2018, 09:31 »
Now we will see who the biggest MPG bullsh!tters were. Oh dear VW  :whistle:

VW were the ones that were caught. Other manufactures were cheating the tests too.

After the dieselgate VW revised a lot of their MPG figures. Other manufactures may be in a much worse position with regard to WLTP.

I thought WLTP was the reason certain options had been removed i.e. manual gearbox and non-pp GTI. Didn't the Golf R loose 10hp aswell? :huh:

That's what is making me think the Mk8 may not see much increase in performance. With the focus being on efficiency.

Talking of focus - the MPG figures for the performance Ford Focus cars, are pure fantasy.

Think you're right in that priority for Mk8 will be on emissions and economy but I'm still expecting a decent performance boost. Supposedly the 48v battery is meant to give a performance boost F1 style for up to 10 seconds.