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Offline Exonian

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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #10 on: 26 May 2018, 13:48 »
It's hard to second guess what VW will do despite the fact it's a big corporate company with a huge network to feed.
Each generation seems to follow a slightly different path with the only constant being the massive and frustrating wait times.

My first mk7 was ordered the week the books opened in early-mid April 2013 and arrived in late October of that year. It didn't have a massive spec either, PP, NAV, Park Assist and Rear Camera (the latter wasn't a pack back then), oh and it was a 3 door.

The mk8 should be quite a step forward as far as tech is concerned, even if the first models will be fairly familiar just with added petrol emissions filters and such things (which will possibly be a nightmare a few years down the line).

The mk5 saw the GTI as a mainstream model and was hugely popular.
When it was facelifted to the mk6 it was launched again as a totally new model and the GTI and R (and GTD) were then classified as separate niche models with limited dealer ordering. The waiting lists became stupid at times but values held well due to the rarity and desireability of the models. I think I had some of my lowest Golf depreciation in pure £££ terms with my MK6's.

The mk7 saw the performance models launched again as mainstream cars without the apparent ordering limitations.
The GTI was quite popular initially but the GTD and R were punted at the fleet market through cheap leases, which killed off any special status or rarity of either model.
Demand is strong for the cars so resale values aren't terrible but they're not great either.

With the GTI 'brand' now seeing the up! GTI and Polo GTI becoming popular models with massive waiting times for build slots it'll be a given that the next generation of GTI and R will have huge lead times.

As for the looks, we don't know yet but I'm not a fan of the current styling trend VW are now aiming for with too many creases and overly fussy front ends.

I personally think unless you're going for a PP or TCR/Clubsport that the Polo GTI is a better option now it has the MQB platform.
The interior quality is a touch down on the Golf but the tech is right up there and the fun factor is probably just as good.
I think the Ibiza is a much sharper looking car though and would probably favour an Ibiza Cupra over the Polo GTI when they eventually get launched just to be a bit different (plus I have a good history with the original Ibiza Cupras from a previous life).

If I was in the OP's shoes now I'm not sure what I'd do.
A low mileage Clubsport would be a massive step up in the fun stakes (and arguably looks depending on how you like your cars to look) and a TCR is a very appealing package depending on how long they take to get into production. Both will be quite rare and look unique.
A FL R is also an option, they can be picked up for decent money minus the wait if you're not fussed on spec. Such an accomplished car to drive. Not the most thrilling but definitely the best thing VW have ever made for pure cost vs performance potential.

Or an extended warranty and just enjoy a crackingly good car for a few more years whilst saving hard for the mk8.

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Offline Little Lofty

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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #11 on: 26 May 2018, 14:47 »
I also wouldn’t be surprised to see the demise of the three door. Audi have killed it off on the A3, and considering only 1,000 of the 10,000 Golfs on Autotrader are three door I don’t think the demand is there anymore. Manufacturers are streamlining models and spec so they can introduce more electric models.
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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #12 on: 26 May 2018, 15:39 »
I'd pretty much agree with that. Certainly if you want a 3 door VW then the options are diminishing. No more Beetle, Scirocco effectively replaced by the T-Roc, no more 3 door Polo. Then there's the loss of the 3 door Audi A3, the 3 door SEAT Ibiza and Leon SC. Wouldn't surprise me at all if the 3 door Golf got canned. Same if you want a VW with a manual gearbox and a strong engine. There ain't a lot out there if buying new  :sad:
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Offline Jeff Wood

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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #13 on: 26 May 2018, 17:12 »
I know I said before that I would get a TCR.....thinking about it, I think I would look for a mint low miles 3 door Clubsport.

The Clubsport looks better than a TCR, plus you wont have the wait, and it will £££'s less.

And I'm pretty sure you can retrofit the Dynamic rear indicators.

Ok you wont have the active dash, but I could live without that.

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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #14 on: 26 May 2018, 17:15 »
Fairly sure VW have already said no more 3 door...
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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #15 on: 26 May 2018, 18:02 »
Fairly sure VW have already said no more 3 door...

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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #16 on: 26 May 2018, 18:41 »
Fairly sure VW have already said no more 3 door...

 :cry: And no more manual?
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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #17 on: 26 May 2018, 19:07 »
On previous discussions of the mk8 GTi, didn't we conclude there was a fair chance it could be some form of hybrid?

To me the 7.5 is a honed mk7 with slight improvements, although I don't actually prefer the look?

I wouldn't want to own one of the first next generation GTi, VW often have a few teething issues with their cars, I would be happy to let a few brave soles buy theirs first to see how they get on. Maybe buy one after a couple of years when VW have sorted any possible niggles???

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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #18 on: 26 May 2018, 20:00 »
I wouldn't want to own one of the first next generation GTi, VW often have a few teething issues with their cars, I would be happy to let a few brave soles buy theirs first to see how they get on. Maybe buy one after a couple of years when VW have sorted any possible niggles???

@clubsport, totally agree with you on this. I’d have no desire to be an early adopter of a new model and effectively be an unpaid product tester for VW!

Aside from any potential teething issues, waiting a couple of years should (hopefully) mean that if there are lengthy wait times for the first customers, these will have reduced to something more acceptable two years after launch. And it’s likely you’ll be able to get a better deal two years into a car’s lifecycle than you will if you order one of the first.
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Re: Whose waiting for a Mk8 GTi?
« Reply #19 on: 26 May 2018, 20:05 »
I had one of the very first MK7 GTI’s. I had zero teething issues with it that I can recall.

Imo the novelty of owning one of the very early cars, when they are a relatively rare sight totally outweighs worrying about being an early adopter.
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