Author Topic: Golf Replacement ??  (Read 16886 times)

Offline Daz Auto

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,120
  • Other brands of washing powder are available.
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #20 on: 02 January 2018, 13:41 »
The T-Roc is Polo based is it not?
As far as I can see from google, the Troc is using the MQB platform the same as the Golf.

There is supposed to be an SUV coming soon based on the Polo, called the T-Cross.

10/8/2017 - GTI Performance, Red,5dr DS

Offline Guzzle

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,060
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #21 on: 02 January 2018, 13:49 »
The new Polo is also MQB based now. Only shortened and it doesn't get the independent rear suspension of the higher powered Golf's as far as I know.

That said the T Roc is VW's version of the Q2, and is very similar in terms of dimensions.
7.5 GTD

Offline Daz Auto

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,120
  • Other brands of washing powder are available.
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #22 on: 02 January 2018, 14:02 »
The new Polo is also MQB based now. Only shortened and it doesn't get the independent rear suspension of the higher powered Golf's as far as I know.

That said the T Roc is VW's version of the Q2, and is very similar in terms of dimensions.
This is what Parkers review says - "The VW T-Roc uses the same oily bits and chassis as many other cars within the VW Group, including the VW Golf, Audi Q2 and A3."

I read somewhere that the Polo will be using a smaller MQB A0 chassis.

10/8/2017 - GTI Performance, Red,5dr DS

Offline kalimon

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 1,751
  • My other car's a van
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #23 on: 02 January 2018, 14:10 »
When I just clicked on this thread again the little ad at the top of the page was for Stannah Stairlifts!  :laugh:

I'm no spring chicken but I certainly don't hanker after something that you need a Stannah for to clean the roof.

I just don't think I'm VW owner material anymore, I have nothing in common with 99% of the R Forum owners and it looks like GTI enthusiasts have matured into SUV lovers.

I'm the opposite of an Audi owner...

... My ad was for insulated wellies :embarrassed:

... Even though the Audi Q2 was a loan car, I gave it a wash before it went back. I could reach the middle of the roof at a stretch an I'm not tall. I would think the Troc is a similar size. I tried the roof of the Tiguan at the dealers - not a mission of me washihng that. Would have needed a milk crate or similar.

... I can see why people like SUVs. However, I doubt if I would buy one for myself to drive. I love driving my GTI. Though I can see our other car being change for an SUV for the best of both worlds.

... I personally prefer VW to Audi, but my wife prefers Audi.
My ad was for todger enlargement :embarrassed:.......I've no idea why :undecided:
5 DR Mk 7 GTI PP
Carbon Grey, Dynaudio, Car Net App, High Beam Assist, Rear View Camera. Collected 14/03/16

Offline mcmaddy

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 5,278
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #24 on: 02 January 2018, 14:13 »
You don't get the same standard kit in a Skoda as you do with a VW so once you've ticked a couple of extras boxes the cheap Skoda isn't that cheap any more.

I agree to an extent, although that surely ought to be judged on the basis of the equipment that you actually want, rather than simply comparing standard car vs standard car.

For example an Octavia vRS 245 has alcantara and 19 inch alloys as standard, whereas the Golf GTi PP has neither despite being £2k more expensive at list price.

Pre FL Mk7 GTi's and GTD's had KESSY as standard at one point. That was something i'd rather not have at all rather than have it given to me for free. I simply didn't want it.
Standard equipment on the VW is better than on the Skoda so that's your starting point. You can't compare a golf GTi to Skoda Octavia vrs and then say you get 19s and alcantara. You get as standard more on the golf so the 2k argument is non existent.
TCR, Pure Grey, DCC, Dynaudio and Climate Screen.

Offline fredgroves

  • Serious forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 7,932
  • Professional Um Bongo drinker
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #25 on: 02 January 2018, 15:13 »
I spec'ed a Octavia VRS instead of my GTD actually.

Its kinda swings and roundabouts.... sure you can choose to not have bits that the GTD comes with, but other things you can't spec at all. The real kicker though was that you couldn't get as much discount on the Skoda, the residuals were a fair bit worse and Skoda PCP finance was a higher percentage rate.

All in all, it made absolutely no financial sense to pursue it further for me and it was only a financial consideration in the first place....I didn't honestly want to drive one in the first place as besides the badge it was bigger than I wanted (in the same way as the SEAT was smaller than I wanted) Others may discover its the car of their dreams.





Current: Mk8 GTI DSG, Adelaides, DCC, HUD, HK, Winter Pack, Rear Camera.. Aka "HMS Weasel"

Gone: 2017 Mk7.5 GTD,manual, NavPro
Gone: 2014 Mk7 GTD, manual, NavPro, DCC

Offline Guzzle

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,060
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #26 on: 02 January 2018, 15:51 »
You don't get the same standard kit in a Skoda as you do with a VW so once you've ticked a couple of extras boxes the cheap Skoda isn't that cheap any more.

I agree to an extent, although that surely ought to be judged on the basis of the equipment that you actually want, rather than simply comparing standard car vs standard car.

For example an Octavia vRS 245 has alcantara and 19 inch alloys as standard, whereas the Golf GTi PP has neither despite being £2k more expensive at list price.

Pre FL Mk7 GTi's and GTD's had KESSY as standard at one point. That was something i'd rather not have at all rather than have it given to me for free. I simply didn't want it.
Standard equipment on the VW is better than on the Skoda so that's your starting point. You can't compare a golf GTi to Skoda Octavia vrs and then say you get 19s and alcantara. You get as standard more on the golf so the 2k argument is non existent.

With respect your starting point is your budget and the car that offers most of what you want, and least of what you don't want. Otherwise you're paying extra for no reason. If you just don't want the Skoda badge then there's probably not a lot I can say to convince you.

I understand the logic with PCP or cash purchases (as seems to be the norm on here), but there's more than one way to skin a cat. My Octy was leased for far less than I could get a GTD for, the only things I added would have cost just as much if not more to add to a GTD. Sure I missed out on front parking sensors and an electronic handbrake, but I did get half leather and lane assist instead.

I'm intrigued to know what additional equipment a GTi PP has that you don't get on a VRS 245. As far as I can tell it's front assist, active info display and an electronic handbrake, but by all means correct me if i've missed something.
7.5 GTD

Offline mcmaddy

  • Forum addict
  • *
  • Posts: 5,278
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #27 on: 02 January 2018, 17:01 »
I'm not a badge snob in any way and I take your stupid comment about being convinced by you as total stupidity. I like the standard equipment I have on my gti pp and if you could get exactly the same but in the Octavia then I would as I love the size of the boot. Don't assume things about people you don't even know.
TCR, Pure Grey, DCC, Dynaudio and Climate Screen.

Offline JoeGTI

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,347
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #28 on: 02 January 2018, 18:16 »
 :laugh:

mcmaddy, for so many of your posts on here I have an image in my head of someone furiously banging on their keyboard in a state of constant anger and irritation. Mad as hell with the world with zero tolerance for the perceived idiocy all around him lol.

This is only in jest, so don't go taking it the wrong way  :cool:
MK8.5 GTI Clubsport. Moonstone grey. Queenstown 19’s. DCC. Harmon Kardon sound. Pano roof.

Offline Guzzle

  • I live here
  • *****
  • Posts: 2,060
Re: Golf Replacement ??
« Reply #29 on: 02 January 2018, 18:48 »
I'm not a badge snob in any way and I take your stupid comment about being convinced by you as total stupidity. I like the standard equipment I have on my gti pp and if you could get exactly the same but in the Octavia then I would as I love the size of the boot. Don't assume things about people you don't even know.

Well when I used the word 'you' i didn't mean 'you' personally, I meant people in general. But after reading back my post again I can now see how I gave you that impression and apologise.  :smiley: It was Fred that mentioned the badge, so I thought it was a fair issue to mention it as it had already been raised. I can't say I always like the tone of some of the stuff posted on here, but i've somehow always tried my best to be as polite as possible. But no doubt some may think I deserved it.

I was merely making the point that the extra equipment you get on a VW over an Skoda isn't free, one has to pay for it with the higher price for what can often be a smaller car. Fine if you want all the extra kit and are willing to pay for it, or give up the extra space. But we all want different things and that's why VAG offer a choice.
« Last Edit: 02 January 2018, 18:55 by Guzzle »
7.5 GTD