Keyless car hacking

[fredgroves]

You've lined your handbag with tinfoil? ;-)

[I wanted a GTi]

You've lined your handbag with tinfoil? ;-)

Only on weekends

[random_nickname]

But if the victim (person with the real key) is left behind does this mean the car will detect 'no key present' and shut down after a short distance or does the person with the device standing by the car permanently have a device that emulates the original key?

[fredgroves]

As far as I know you can drive as far as you like, as long as you don't switch off.

I am sure there have been cases of passengers taking the keys with them when you drop them off before...

[CocoPops]

This is correct, you can drive as long as you don't stall/turn off.
Hence why some thieves have even filled up the cars at petrol stations without turning the car off.

[random_nickname]

Which means they have no real incentive of having it for more than a few hours then? Or maybe drive it somewhere strip it or use it in a robbery then get rid.

So on to another point, does this mean if the start / stop kicks in the car is dead? Or only if they press the Start Engine Stop button and completely shut the car down?

I would be seriously pissed if someone did this to me which is why I ask so many questions. Well I have ordered a signal jamming pouch for my main key and took the battery out of my spare key so hopefully that makes me feel a bit more at ease in future.

I keep hearing of keyless cars being stolen outside my gym in the car park. It is all CCTV'd up but it doesn't stop them. Haven't heard of any MK7 Golfs going just Fords and BMWs from memory.

[SRGTD]

I keep hearing of keyless cars being stolen outside my gym in the car park. It is all CCTV'd up but it doesn't stop them. Haven't heard of any MK7 Golfs going just Fords and BMWs from memory.

Seems that the Fiesta ST is a popular target, judging by discussions on fiestastoc.com. Many ST owners are using a steering wheel Disklok and have relocated the OBD port to help foil the would-be thief.

[fredgroves]

Which means they have no real incentive of having it for more than a few hours then? Or maybe drive it somewhere strip it or use it in a robbery then get rid.

So on to another point, does this mean if the start / stop kicks in the car is dead? Or only if they press the Start Engine Stop button and completely shut the car down?

Drive it away to either strip or rebuild with new electronics.

I'd guess strip is the most likely? How do people profit from stealing cars these days? I'd doubt if that info was generally available...

I don't think a start/stop restart needs a key, just a full engine stop.

[mcmaddy]

At the end of the day if a thief wants your car badly enough he will find a way to get it. No extra locks, tin foil bags etc etc will make any difference. We pay insurance for a reason so if s4it happens it happens.

[I wanted a GTi]

Heads up.

Car crime, are you a target is on ITV tonight at 7:30