Clubsport Vs Mk7.5 GTi performance

[hog_hedge]

A lot of publications mistake the 0-62 mph (100kph) time to be a 0-60 time so that's where the confusions could be coming from. Then by adding real world timings into the mix there are loads of different 0-60 figures flying around and no one knows what's what.

[scanesare]

0-60/62 is a very dated and often misleading benchmark for a modern car's performance, especially when FWD is involved but even between two FWD sometimes as with today's torque and hp, most of the car's effort till 30-40mph is putting that power down, not how much it's got. It comes from an age where hitting 60mph was something to brag about whereas today performance cars can hit 2.5-3 times that speed. In fact for anything over 250bhp it's the accelerations from 50mph and above that are showing how the car actually performs against others.

It's not problematic just with FWD either. Electric cars are extremely flattered by that benchmark. Those sub 3" numbers seem impressive but once the launch advantage of say a Tesla goes away, and especially over 60mph, they struggle to keep up even with cars with 60% that horsepower.

Still my 70 year old non-petrolhead father asks what's this car's 0-60 so I guess it an easy to digest (but rendered irrelevant) figure for the masses...

[matchboy]

Still my 70 year old non-petrolhead father asks what's this car's 0-60 so I guess it an easy to digest (but rendered irrelevant) figure for the masses...

If the 0-60 times are irrelevant then why does everyone always quote them?  Also, every single car publication - whether it be on tv, youtube magazine etc etc - always quotes the 0-60 time on every car review (particularly performance cars).  Would you say they're non-petrolheads?

[Lemar88]

Clubsport vs Golf R - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkLrq2mc9Mc

The Clubsport appears to out brake and corner better than a Golf R. They explain why in the description. In theory the Golf GTI Performance - having the R brakes and being lighter - should be able to do the same. Though the Golf R will be able to exit bends and accelerate away on the straights.

Did you notice the Clubsport dropping back everytime he changed gear.

Looks like a club sport s to me

[scanesare]

Still my 70 year old non-petrolhead father asks what's this car's 0-60 so I guess it an easy to digest (but rendered irrelevant) figure for the masses...

If the 0-60 times are irrelevant then why does everyone always quote them?  Also, every single car publication - whether it be on tv, youtube magazine etc etc - always quotes the 0-60 time on every car review (particularly performance cars).  Would you say they're non-petrolheads?

Because it's the oldest performance figure that everyone (70 year old non-petrolhead father, you, others) is familiar about and being a factory figure of-course they have to quote them. However that doesn't make them relevant (or at least as relevant as some people think in judging cars by 0-60 times) as it can only address a fraction of a current sports car's performance which barely stops at 60mph we would all agree. On the contrary, it's around that figure (probably 50) that any launch advantage/disadvantage like weight or powertrain are removed from the equation and you can clearly compare how fast a car can really go in the real world where drag races from a standstill are rather rare.

[scanesare]

Clubsport vs Golf R - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkLrq2mc9Mc

The Clubsport appears to out brake and corner better than a Golf R. They explain why in the description. In theory the Golf GTI Performance - having the R brakes and being lighter - should be able to do the same. Though the Golf R will be able to exit bends and accelerate away on the straights.

Did you notice the Clubsport dropping back everytime he changed gear.

Looks like a club sport s to me

What in particular makes it look like an S may I ask? 

[wantmygti]

Clubsport vs Golf R - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MkLrq2mc9Mc

The Clubsport appears to out brake and corner better than a Golf R. They explain why in the description. In theory the Golf GTI Performance - having the R brakes and being lighter - should be able to do the same. Though the Golf R will be able to exit bends and accelerate away on the straights.

Did you notice the Clubsport dropping back everytime he changed gear.

Looks like a club sport s to me

What in particular makes it look like an S may I ask? 

That's an old video that was out well before the CSS was announced.

[Exonian]

I think if you have a big lairy V8 with an auto box that requires no skill to launch quickly then 0-60's are probably relevant.
If you have lots of power and 4wd and like showing off in the rain then maybe 0-60's are good.

If you like blasting off roundabouts or driving B roads then 0-60's aren't really something you'll worry about. GTI's have never been about 0-60's. I can remember back in the mk2 GTI days Astra GTE owners banging on about their superior 0-60's whilst glossing over their rusty rear wheel arches... 

[Daz Auto]

Looks like a club sport s to me

... nah, the Clubsport S would spank a Golf R

[Jim_mk7.5]

I think if you have a big lairy V8 with an auto box that requires no skill to launch quickly then 0-60's are probably relevant.
If you have lots of power and 4wd and like showing off in the rain then maybe 0-60's are good.

If you like blasting off roundabouts or driving B roads then 0-60's aren't really something you'll worry about. GTI's have never been about 0-60's. I can remember back in the mk2 GTI days Astra GTE owners banging on about their superior 0-60's whilst glossing over their rusty rear wheel arches... 

Agreed! My boss has an S8 Plus so 600bhp and I've had it on a few occasions for a week or so and its pretty incredible.. but you need a large bit of road to actually open it up and then you rather quickly find you're in license losing territory.. TG video'd one doing 0-60 in 3.5.. 

I've got a std Mk7.5 GTi arriving this month, I would imagine its a not a traffic light car but living right on the edge of the Peak District, I'm looking forward to just have a blast on nice twisty roads where I reckon the Golf will be right at home.