Possibly being offered a Clubsport S

[The ANT]

Depends what you want it to do. Is it a family car or just your car?

[drisser]

no I meant an M2 is 50% more than a CS !

For me it would be a fun car but also need to be usable for me and the other half plus kids in future as I would be keeping it long term.  It doesn't need 5 doors but I don't think I could justify a Golf with 2 seats tbh..

I also like a few comforts in my cars even if they are B road focussed !

[Clubsport S]

Lots of factors to consider but can you live with only 2 seats is key I guess.

Oh and will you regret not getting a CSS later on 😉

[scanesare]

Owning a CS for almost two months now I can't really see any other car feeling even half as special as this and being a family driver with as much competence as a Clubsport, that really is it's biggest appeal. And while you can perfectly carry lots of luggage and 5 people, have a nice infotainment system, a great hi-fi and lots of other small luxuries, whenever I'm alone in the car, the interior (with buckets) makes me think I'm driving something almost as special as a 911 GT3.

I've said it before that the problem with the CS-S is it's too similar mechanically and visually identical to the standard CS that it takes a dedicated track fun or someone that just doesn't ever care about passengers to justify the practicality and other options' deletion for marginally better performance at the limit. And like you wrote, the 2-seater driver's car competition is harsh and has some admittedly better and more classic options so unless you are looking at it from an investment point of view it doesn't make much sense.

Even the theoretical future value is much debatable in my opinion for any Golf with no rear seats and not some mad power/drivetrain and uber aggressive look (that neither the CS or CS-S provide).

[GT4]

You will kick yourself for not taking a CS-S ... It will be as quick as the M2 for virtually half the price and a limited run car unlike the M2 - i had a deposit on an M2 but bailed out as just thought £60k a crazy amount of money for a car with average seats and basic 2 series layout - better off buying a 5 year old 1M for £45k ... Which is why i think the CS-S is a no brainer ... £34k 6% APR as opposed to BMW 9% and M2 with what will be a relatively large total build numbers, unlike the 1M or CS-S

In my experience, you can never go wrong with Limited build cars and 400 World wide is seriously low build ... add to that it appears to be a great car (See Top Gear - Speed week Video) and £34k price point with low APR rates and even lower running costs and its a winner all round ... Sure its a Golf and the M cars have more Magic but i think with this CS-S car VW have gone hunting for new M2/A45/RS3 Owners and probably found them ... 

[clubsport]

I think the CS-S is as niche a car as VW have ever built. The low build numbers will be absorbed by VW enthusiasts, I can't really see it appealing to M2, AMG 45 or RS3 owners myself.

The M2 is rwd and the AMG & RS3 are point 'n squirt 4wd missiles that lack the handling finesse I would hope a CS-S offers.
Drisser, if you are not going for the car yourself, I would appreciate an email heads up if it available at list.
I would own and use it, but can't get excited at paying overs!
Cheers...

[CraigW]

You will kick yourself for not taking a CS-S ... It will be as quick as the M2 for virtually half the price and a limited run car unlike the M2 - i had a deposit on an M2 but bailed out as just thought £60k a crazy amount of money for a car with average seats and basic 2 series layout - better off buying a 5 year old 1M for £45k ... Which is why i think the CS-S is a no brainer ... £34k 6% APR as opposed to BMW 9% and M2 with what will be a relatively large total build numbers, unlike the 1M or CS-S

In my experience, you can never go wrong with Limited build cars and 400 World wide is seriously low build ... add to that it appears to be a great car (See Top Gear - Speed week Video) and £34k price point with low APR rates and even lower running costs and its a winner all round ... Sure its a Golf and the M cars have more Magic but i think with this CS-S car VW have gone hunting for new M2/A45/RS3 Owners and probably found them ... 

How exactly is an M2 £60k? Adding every option going brings it to just over £50k and vanilla spec only £44k. Given the choice I'd have a basic M2 over a CSS any day of the week. To me its a far better looking car

[vipergts]

GT4 no disrespect but I think you've started to talk out of your ring

As Clubsport says, It's not in the same league, totally different concept

My Daughter has just taken delivery of her M2, has a fair old spec on it and it was 53k from memory so not 60 bags.

It's an awesome car, it's where the M3 was and should still be, a proper rwd weapon. My daughter says it's perfect for shopping too. loool

Whilst the CS-S is a great car it'n no M2 and we don't actually know if they're limited or not do we, still very low build for the foreseeable

[GT4]

Guys - I apologise for the £60k error ... I have a stinking cold and got the numbers in my head wrong 

I was going to get M2 but as i said in a previous post, thought it was expensive and cheap BMW interior inside, i guess i have been spoilt by Porsche... as i have said previously, i loved the car but don't think its a replacement for the 1M and the whole BMW being ambiguous about how many they are going to build put me off the car ... Its a great car never the less but not a limited run car - I have my name down for a M2 CSL if it gets built and would think that a better proposition, like the GT4 ...

Again, apologies for the typo on M2 cost .... were all human!

[vipergts]

Guys - I apologise for the £60k error ... I have a stinking cold and got the numbers in my head wrong 

I was going to get M2 but as i said in a previous post, thought it was expensive and cheap BMW interior inside, i guess i have been spoilt by Porsche... as i have said previously, i loved the car but don't think its a replacement for the 1M and the whole BMW being ambiguous about how many they are going to build put me off the car ... Its a great car never the less but not a limited run car - I have my name down for a M2 CSL if it gets built and would think that a better proposition, like the GT4 ...

Again, apologies for the typo on M2 cost .... were all human!

You're not the only one on here who has been Porsched. I've had plenty of high end Pork as I know Paul (Clubsport) has and probably many others here

You have to take a step back and look at other cars from a different perspective. I love an M car, had loads, all the M3's right up to the latest (well it's my Womans TBH) but also AMG stuff inc the SLS currently but I'm no snob, they're all great cars, appreciated for what they offer.

Your early posts here were centered around whether the CS-S was worthy of you, this I don't understand.

Reminds me of when I had a GT-R35 new in 2010 and so many guys would diss it purely because it's a Datsun.......Madness....Badge snobbery.

I know the GT-4 is a cracking car but it's not the be all and end all..