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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #30 on: 01 July 2016, 08:45 »
The final decider from me moving from A3 Quattro to the GTD was the standard options that would be paying for on the A3 which enabled me to option DSG and DCC with the savings made.

Time has proven that made the correct choice at the time as the DSG and DCC are something grown to love.
The new 190ps petrol engine in the new facelift A3 quattro S tronic has interesting performance and economy. 0-62 in 6.1 sec, 47.9 mpg combined. That's faster than new GTI club sport performance of 6.3 :shocked:

By the time I added DSG, PP and DCC to the GTI the prices were not that much different. The GTI PP has 40ps more and 0-62 of 6.5  :undecided:

Edit to add: the slightly heavier A3 Sportback and Saloon are 6.2 sec 0-62.

Spent a little time on the Audi forum as the A3 facelift Quattro was in the final selections and the consensus there was get an S3 if that was to be your pick.

The conversations went on and actually some Audi folk convinced me the Golf R was the better drivers car than the S3

DCC was something that wanted to and the magnetic ride to offset the S Line ride is quite expensive to, so the A3 Quattro was soon racking up the ££ in options that come standard on the R

Another factor that I took into consideration was that needed 5 Doors and only really like the A3 in the 3 Door, on certain days I just see the Sportback as an estate.

Really did like my two A3 Quattro and sure would have been very happy if just gone with the 8V chassis A3 S Line Quattro as it looks good, its quick enough and has good economy to, and you get all the nice Audi usual on the interior. But just wanted this time around to be the ultimate car in that class

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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #31 on: 01 July 2016, 09:27 »
Daz: about 0.7s of that audi's 0-62 time will be due to initial traction of the 4wd system which the clubsport doesn't have. Once rolling the clubsport will be markedly quicker. You'll see the same comparing a facelift Audi S3 310ps to the Clubsport S - the S3 will look much quicker 0-62 bur once rolling the Clubsport S will be as quick in the dry.
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Totally agree with what you said about the 2 cars. Above a certain speed 4 wheel drive and S tronic/DSG are just an extra 100kg of dead weight slowing a car down.

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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #32 on: 01 July 2016, 10:30 »
... some Audi folk convinced me the Golf R was the better drivers car than the S3

DCC was something that wanted to and the magnetic ride to offset the S Line ride is quite expensive to, so the A3 Quattro was soon racking up the ££ in options that come standard on the R

Really did like my two A3 Quattro and sure would have been very happy if just gone with the 8V chassis A3 S Line Quattro as it looks good, its quick enough and has good economy to, and you get all the nice Audi usual on the interior. But just wanted this time around to be the ultimate car in that class
Audi Sport forum?

DCC £830
Mag ride £995

We are all looking for the perfect balance of features that fulfil our requirements in a car. Many requirements are mutually exclusive. Who wouldn't like to have a fast, comfortable, economical, practical and stylish car. Unfortunately, choosing a car is all about compromise.

The Golf R running costs put me off - insurance, mpg and super unleaded. And many of my usual petrol stations no longer have super unleaded.

The GTI or the Audi A3 quattro would offer me a nice step up in performance from my Mk6 GTD.

« Last Edit: 01 July 2016, 10:48 by Daz Auto »

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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #33 on: 01 July 2016, 11:14 »
... some Audi folk convinced me the Golf R was the better drivers car than the S3

DCC was something that wanted to and the magnetic ride to offset the S Line ride is quite expensive to, so the A3 Quattro was soon racking up the ££ in options that come standard on the R

Really did like my two A3 Quattro and sure would have been very happy if just gone with the 8V chassis A3 S Line Quattro as it looks good, its quick enough and has good economy to, and you get all the nice Audi usual on the interior. But just wanted this time around to be the ultimate car in that class
Audi Sport forum?

DCC £830
Mag ride £995

We are all looking for the perfect balance of features that fulfil our requirements in a car. Many requirements are mutually exclusive. Who wouldn't like to have a fast, comfortable, economical, practical and stylish car. Unfortunately, choosing a car is all about compromise.

The Golf R running costs put me off - insurance, mpg and super unleaded. And many of my usual petrol stations no longer have super unleaded.

The GTI or the Audi A3 quattro would offer me a nice step up in performance from my Mk6 GTD.

Its the horses for courses scenario as both the cars you mention were in my final three with the R and moving from a MK6 to either will definitely be an uplift all round so its win win.

My scenario, or horse for course is different, company lease, with insurance bundled up and mileage significantly reduced with multiple stations for the higher grade fuel

At present my short runs pretty much negate the GTD economy with my overall average just creeping over 40 MPG and so expect about 30 MPG on the R doing similar journeys

Also, on my company configuration for selecting a car the Audi was way more expensive than the Golf R which may be different if out there bargaining personally, but it was another decider for me.

So have rationalised with myself that for three years could cover the cost for what the R gives back and if costs really do prove an issue will move to something more balanced next time around.

We all at different stages and where I am personally is that careful and sensible in most things but this is for me, my extravagance though if hit the 30 MPG mark at the break even lease cost it is to me then it will be about £50 a month more than paying now for the GTD

For you, as said, its win win, loved my 2 Audi Quattro, great cars and though they were 8P chassis, the new 8V chassis will be much better, and having drove a GTD for nearly 3 years now, know the MK 7 Golf and the GTI are are great place to be, so its fine lines of division and no really wrong choice.

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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #34 on: 01 July 2016, 14:27 »
... MK6 to either will definitely be an uplift all round so its win win.

... will move to something more balanced next time around.

We all at different stages and where I am personally is that careful and sensible in most things but this is for me, my extravagance though...

... no really wrong choice.
It is a nice position to be in. I really wish I could justify buying a Golf R at this stage.

Also, my wife might want my car in a few years. I know she will like the A3 Quattro. She would not want a GTI or Golf R. Something else I have to consider.

Edit: I can see problems keeping my wife out of a new A3. So maybe I should get a GTI or R :evil:
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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #35 on: 01 July 2016, 14:43 »
... MK6 to either will definitely be an uplift all round so its win win.

... will move to something more balanced next time around.

We all at different stages and where I am personally is that careful and sensible in most things but this is for me, my extravagance though...

... no really wrong choice.
It is a nice position to be in. I really wish I could justify buying a Golf R at this stage.

Also, my wife might want my car in a few years. I know she will like the A3 Quattro. She would not want a GTI or Golf R. Something else I have to consider.

Edit: I can see problems keeping my wife out of a new A3. So maybe I should get a GTI or R :evil:


Wife struggled with my 2 x A3 Quattro as they were manual and you would never catch me having an automatic.

But her best buddy had an Audi with STronic and so she badgered me into selecting DSG for the GTD

Cannot go back now and with the Auto she has no fears for the R as drives the GTD most days and loves it.

The Audi is a nice cabin to be in and in S Line form its just a nice higher spec Audi with some sporting touches

The GTI is hardly like an RS or an F Type, one the appeals for most here is the understated nature of performance golfs, where its sporting touches allude to what lies in side opposed to screaming it.

For badge snobbery the Audi still seems to win in the conversation stakes but out driving I would say the Golfs turn more heads and the cabin is still a nice place to be. My wife loved the Quattro we had, but like me she thinks the Golf is the better car and was one pushing me away from the A3 and S3 and urging me to at least select another GTD, if not the GTI or the R ..

There is plenty to be seen out there now from both camps so suggest you both get down to garages and see them in the flesh and test drive. its part of the fun, which soon stops when have to wait an eternity like I am having to do now :)

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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #36 on: 01 July 2016, 16:38 »
There is plenty to be seen out there now from both camps so suggest you both get down to garages and see them in the flesh and test drive. its part of the fun, which soon stops when have to wait an eternity like I am having to do now :)
I'm not changing until next year. I'm still at the research stage.

I waited 9 months for my car. It is difficult, but worth it. The forums do help a bit :smiley:

My wife drives a 2 year old A3 1.6 SE Sportback S tronic. She loves the car, but it was bought for comfort and not speed. Luckily my wife is built for speed and not comfort :evil:

Edit: I just realised - 2 of my wife's friends bought new A3's after her. So I really doubt she would want a Golf, but a faster A3...?
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Re: Other cars with comparable spec to gtd/gti
« Reply #37 on: 01 July 2016, 17:44 »
There is plenty to be seen out there now from both camps so suggest you both get down to garages and see them in the flesh and test drive. its part of the fun, which soon stops when have to wait an eternity like I am having to do now :)
I'm not changing until next year. I'm still at the research stage.

I waited 9 months for my car. It is difficult, but worth it. The forums do help a bit :smiley:

My wife drives a 2 year old A3 1.6 SE Sportback S tronic. She loves the car, but it was bought for comfort and not speed. Luckily my wife is built for speed and not comfort :evil:

Edit: I just realised - 2 of my wife's friends bought new A3's after her. So I really doubt she would want a Golf, but a faster A3...?

We have a young lady called Rebecca here who should take your wife out for a drive in her Black Beauty R and you might find girl power may swing in the Golfs direction  :wink:

But as been saying if the Audi seeming prestige is the differentiation then that will sway, but I jumped from the A3 and have not for a second regretted it.

Due diligence is the fun stage and as you have plenty of time just get the test drives booked and also check the many posts here on how to secure great deals for either brand