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Offline vw spur

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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #20 on: 02 March 2016, 22:08 »
I have been driving a Peugeot 208 for the last week, it would be safe to say i can not wait for my Mk7 GTD!!

Lucky you, I sold my BMW yesterday and am now driving a Toyota Yaris until my GTD arrives, the only bonus is I'm not paying for the privilege lol
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Offline Mark V GTD

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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #21 on: 03 March 2016, 08:45 »
I had a 208 on rental for a month before the GTD - quite liked it actually.

Even my little C1 has a far better infotainment interface than the Golf - phone system that connects easily, downloads SMS and e-mail on the move etc.

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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #22 on: 03 March 2016, 08:47 »
I was going to hire a Fiat 500 but decided on the 208 instead as I wanted a diesel. For a 1.6 75Bhp diesel engine its surprisingly fast, however the body roll is shocking!! 
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Offline Mark V GTD

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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #23 on: 03 March 2016, 12:34 »
Just worked out the purchase cost for this car over 23 months.

2k deposit plus 22 x GBP350.00 plus GBP1,500 to offset the neg equity... comes in a GBP11,200.

Thats 487.00 a month!!

Considering a GTD can now be leased for 257.00 per month inc VAT and with no initial payment its a sobering calculation...

PCP - never again :-(

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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #24 on: 03 March 2016, 13:58 »
Just worked out the purchase cost for this car over 23 months.

2k deposit plus 22 x GBP350.00 plus GBP1,500 to offset the neg equity... comes in a GBP11,200.

Thats 487.00 a month!!

Considering a GTD can now be leased for 257.00 per month inc VAT and with no initial payment its a sobering calculation...

PCP - never again :-(

Slightly unfair comparison to include the impact of your negative equity. The timing of your early chop-in dictates negative equity. Leasing makes far less sense if you're big on your options as options cost you mare per month on a lease than PCP.

I daresay that for Sootchucker's wife's fully loaded GT, half the car's heavy depreciation will be in the options rather than the basic car and the sharper you chop in a PCP vs full term, the more likely you are to be in negative equity unless your deposit is huge.
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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #25 on: 04 March 2016, 00:17 »
I don't think its unfair to include the negative equity. Its part of the facts of this. Never had negative equity before and I have had at least six PCP deals in a row over last decade. Its a sign of the times and the misfortunes of VW :-(

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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #26 on: 04 March 2016, 07:53 »
I don't think its unfair to include the negative equity. Its part of the facts of this. Never had negative equity before and I have had at least six PCP deals in a row over last decade. Its a sign of the times and the misfortunes of VW :-(

Thats a loss on this car, shouldnt be considered as a "cost" of the next one. If your next one is a lease you'd still have to pay that £1500 equity, would you then add 1/24 of that £1500 to the monthly lease cost?

Unless they've got a huge deposit down, most PCPers wont be in positive equity unil 2/3 through a 3 year PCP or 3/4 through a 4 year term. Getting more than GFV at the end of a PCP in p/x towards the next one used to be a given, but it isn't now, there'll almost certainly be something in it, but not quite the 10% over GFV that we've previously been used to, thee hook now is the deposit contribution and loyalty discount.

If going forward this dieselgate issue doesn't blow over I won't be buying another VW and ending up with BMW residuals unless I can get BMW sized discounts.

Currently with the deposit contribution and loyalty discount, most of that poor p/x value is covered for anyone chopping in right now. When you give a car back early without another in the pipeline, you're far less likely to get a "generous" value, theres no hook to keep you as a customer. If you get a settlement figure for walking away from your agreement it'll almost certainly be a good £1500 less than the p/x value you'd be offered against a new one, and I think there is where the difference for you lies between this time and all the other times when you've got another VW.

When your 2 year p/x value is only a kick in  the arse off the 3 year GFV, those thinking of changing will have to weigh up the extra discounts vs the crap p/x.

I personally think that VW overreacted in offering these bigger discounts and hammering their residuals. Their sales dropped 20% in the short term, they should have waited it out IMO - people still buy Toyotas after all those safety recalls. Most consumers care more about running costs than what comes out of the exhaust.

Expensive VWs are relatively cheap (monthlies relative to RRP) to own due to high residuals, without those residuals they are not good value for money. Damaging residuals with their big discounts will cause far more harm to their business model than freezing RRPs for a year. VWs car price inflation is crazy given the current economic climate.
« Last Edit: 04 March 2016, 08:20 by monkeyhanger »
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Offline Mark V GTD

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Re: Time to part with GTD
« Reply #27 on: 04 March 2016, 09:27 »
Sensible words MH. Obviously I am still hurting after shelling out 1500 for the benefit of having my car driven away...

I still can't get away from the notion that PCP will not work again for me. I agree its not ideal to halt them early - but even taken to term I'm not sure how much more than the 16k GFV I would get in a private sale in a years time.

Leasing, for me is the way to go now and I'm tempted by the GTD offer with CVL at 258.00 a month for two years (no deposit and including VAT).
« Last Edit: 06 March 2016, 09:01 by Mark V GTD »