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Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« on: 15 June 2015, 12:28 »
Over this weekend I managed to load on the Superchips remap for the Ed35 and get the car on a rolling road. The rolling road I used was Tip Top Exhausts in Birmingham on Lichfield Road. No frills but I managed to get everything I needed from there i.e. how much power.



My experience with the super chips guys was very good throughout, I bought the BlueFin with another car already linked to it so needed to have it reset by them which was done within about 10 minutes and my map was ready to download from them within an hour once I had sent it off to them. As seems to be the case with everyone who gets more power to play with, it rained pretty much as soon as I got the map for the next two days constantly so I haven't had loads of time to play about with the new tune but the car is much much faster ! Pulls very hard through the rev range in the lower gears. Couldn't find chance to really test out the top end because of road conditions and traffic.



Noticed there was a rolling road near by so I thought id give it a run on there to test out the stated claims from super chips of over 300 BHP. £40 was the total for which I think turned out to be about 4-5 runs on the dyno. Took in total around 40 minutes. One thing I would say is that the graphs on the printouts aren't plotted in such a way that its easy to really pick out the power curve but I gained a good understanding of what the car has in it. Ill try get a picture of the graph up soon.

https://twitter.com/TipTopExhausts/status/609821108859215872



As you can see, not quite at the quoted amount but its up there at about 295 so these quite a considerable gain in power for the total that it cost me. I didn't get the RR it before the map so can't be 100% sure what power mine started at, but if I get the chance ill take it back and have it run without the map on it.

Managed to get a little time on dry roads and the car does seem to be able to hold this much power quite well, but I do think other maps with more power could well be a little too much when setting off and at lower speeds. Not that I have tried them but even at this power the car can become a handful if your using a bit much right foot off the lights for example. Only thing for now is I can feel a little bit of a flat spot in 5th and 6th when im just coming on boost at 2500 - 3000 rpm quarter throttle doesn't seem as smooth as it used to be as if the turbo is hesitating a little. If anyone has had something like this let me know !
« Last Edit: 15 June 2015, 12:55 by Caddyroo »

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Re: Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« Reply #1 on: 15 June 2015, 13:32 »
Most remapping companies will publish headline figures for marketing purposes, a +40 to 50 peak gain seems to be the norm. It is also sometimes referred to as the 'dyno lottery', there's so many factors influencing a result sometimes down to the operator of the machine...

Is the flat spot not the boost threshold for the K04? That RPM is probably when the turbo is starting to wake up.

On that Twitter post they have credited your ED35 with nearly 300 Bhp at the wheels rather than the flywheel :wink:.

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Re: Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« Reply #2 on: 15 June 2015, 14:37 »
Most remapping companies will publish headline figures for marketing purposes, a +40 to 50 peak gain seems to be the norm. It is also sometimes referred to as the 'dyno lottery', there's so many factors influencing a result sometimes down to the operator of the machine...

Is the flat spot not the boost threshold for the K04? That RPM is probably when the turbo is starting to wake up.

On that Twitter post they have credited your ED35 with nearly 300 Bhp at the wheels rather than the flywheel :wink:.

Ah ok, ill not worry too much about the headline figures then and just stick with how it drives. Yes i think it must just be when its starting to kick in which was smoother before the map and maybe noticeable now. Not very often do you accelerate through 2 - 3 in 6th anyway.

It is 300 at the wheels :), 345 at the flywheel :)

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Re: Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« Reply #3 on: 15 June 2015, 17:17 »
Most remapping companies will publish headline figures for marketing purposes, a +40 to 50 peak gain seems to be the norm. It is also sometimes referred to as the 'dyno lottery', there's so many factors influencing a result sometimes down to the operator of the machine...

Is the flat spot not the boost threshold for the K04? That RPM is probably when the turbo is starting to wake up.

On that Twitter post they have credited your ED35 with nearly 300 Bhp at the wheels rather than the flywheel :wink:.

Ah ok, ill not worry too much about the headline figures then and just stick with how it drives. Yes i think it must just be when its starting to kick in which was smoother before the map and maybe noticeable now. Not very often do you accelerate through 2 - 3 in 6th anyway.

It is 300 at the wheels :), 345 at the flywheel :)

Well you'll have gained a lot under the curve too :cool:

300 at the wheels is legit? The Superchips figures are flywheel as well, that would mean the reading is almost 40 BHP above quoted figures :huh:. TFSI with K04 usually post 330 BHP + with stage 2 mods exhaust/intake and uprated HPFP.

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Re: Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« Reply #4 on: 15 June 2015, 20:16 »
Most remapping companies will publish headline figures for marketing purposes, a +40 to 50 peak gain seems to be the norm. It is also sometimes referred to as the 'dyno lottery', there's so many factors influencing a result sometimes down to the operator of the machine...

Is the flat spot not the boost threshold for the K04? That RPM is probably when the turbo is starting to wake up.

On that Twitter post they have credited your ED35 with nearly 300 Bhp at the wheels rather than the flywheel :wink:.

Ah ok, ill not worry too much about the headline figures then and just stick with how it drives. Yes i think it must just be when its starting to kick in which was smoother before the map and maybe noticeable now. Not very often do you accelerate through 2 - 3 in 6th anyway.

It is 300 at the wheels :), 345 at the flywheel :)

Well you'll have gained a lot under the curve too :cool:

300 at the wheels is legit? The Superchips figures are flywheel as well, that would mean the reading is almost 40 BHP above quoted figures :huh:. TFSI with K04 usually post 330 BHP + with stage 2 mods exhaust/intake and uprated HPFP.

If that's the case then 295 should be about right, I don't have HPFP but I have exhaust and K04 EA113 as its a Ed.35... No ?

Can't be 304 at the flywheel for superchips as the edition 35 practically comes with that bone stock :/
« Last Edit: 15 June 2015, 20:22 by Caddyroo »

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Re: Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« Reply #5 on: 15 June 2015, 21:16 »
232 BHP standard, if you decide to add any further mods you could have a look at this place who know their stuff :cool::

http://r-techperformance.co.uk/vw-golf-mk5-gti-ed30-tfsi-230-remap/

You have CDL engine code, not sure if Superchips support additional mapping for hardware but that will be needed to make the most of the new hardware. Telford to Hinckley isn't far either.

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Re: Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« Reply #6 on: 15 June 2015, 21:23 »
Most remapping companies will publish headline figures for marketing purposes, a +40 to 50 peak gain seems to be the norm. It is also sometimes referred to as the 'dyno lottery', there's so many factors influencing a result sometimes down to the operator of the machine...

Is the flat spot not the boost threshold for the K04? That RPM is probably when the turbo is starting to wake up.

On that Twitter post they have credited your ED35 with nearly 300 Bhp at the wheels rather than the flywheel :wink:.

Ah ok, ill not worry too much about the headline figures then and just stick with how it drives. Yes i think it must just be when its starting to kick in which was smoother before the map and maybe noticeable now. Not very often do you accelerate through 2 - 3 in 6th anyway.

It is 300 at the wheels :), 345 at the flywheel :)

Well you'll have gained a lot under the curve too :cool:

300 at the wheels is legit? The Superchips figures are flywheel as well, that would mean the reading is almost 40 BHP above quoted figures :huh:. TFSI with K04 usually post 330 BHP + with stage 2 mods exhaust/intake and uprated HPFP.

If that's the case then 295 should be about right, I don't have HPFP but I have exhaust and K04 EA113 as its a Ed.35... No ?

Can't be 304 at the flywheel for superchips as the edition 35 practically comes with that bone stock :/

304 at the flywheel at the very best with stage 1 mate, stock ed35 is 235 at the fly after all ;)

Never making anything like 345 at the flywheel on stage 1/exhaust, you'll need stage 2/2+ for that kind of figure (HPFP/down pipe and cat)  :smiley:
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Re: Golf GTI Edition 35 Remap & Rolling Road
« Reply #7 on: 15 June 2015, 21:34 »
My bad then ! Seems as though id got mixed up with my flywheel and at the wheels numbers.