New Civic Type R - £30k??

[NeilH]

I had a 51 plate CTR and in all fairness it was brill as long as you didn't do long journeys. I took it to South Wales and Cornwall a few times and it was a 'mare. The suspension was way too hard and hours of motorway driving isn't what a CTR is about. The whole hard core suspension thing was what put me off the Fiesta ST this time around - it's loved by testers and great value but I want to keep hold of my teeth.

On a positive note -all credit to Honda for making it. It shows just what can be achieved with a 'hot hatch' so to speak and in the current world of low emissions and high fuel economy it's good to know engineers can still innovate & deliver great cars.

Neil

[corgi]

I had a 51 plate CTR and in all fairness it was brill as long as you didn't do long journeys. I took it to South Wales and Cornwall a few times and it was a 'mare. The suspension was way too hard and hours of motorway driving isn't what a CTR is about. The whole hard core suspension thing was what put me off the Fiesta ST this time around - it's loved by testers and great value but I want to keep hold of my teeth.

On a positive note -all credit to Honda for making it. It shows just what can be achieved with a 'hot hatch' so to speak and in the current world of low emissions and high fuel economy it's good to know engineers can still innovate & deliver great cars.

Neil

The CTR was a limo in comparison to the Integra Type-R... I had two of those and the first was a company car in which I did 78,000 miles in 20 months... Still the only car that I've taken to the rev limiter in top gear... Noisier and stiffer than the CTR... I still have all my own teeth 

The Fiesta ST I drove was a bit on the bumpy side but not in the same league as either the CTR or the Integra...

[NeilH]

I loved the look of the Integra but never had the opportunity to drive one - jealous!

[Poached]

I had a 51 plate CTR and in all fairness it was brill as long as you didn't do long journeys. I took it to South Wales and Cornwall a few times and it was a 'mare. The suspension was way too hard and hours of motorway driving isn't what a CTR is about. The whole hard core suspension thing was what put me off the Fiesta ST this time around - it's loved by testers and great value but I want to keep hold of my teeth.

On a positive note -all credit to Honda for making it. It shows just what can be achieved with a 'hot hatch' so to speak and in the current world of low emissions and high fuel economy it's good to know engineers can still innovate & deliver great cars.

Neil

Only spent a small amount of time in an FN2 and I noticed it was firm, not enough time to make a full judgement but its a repeated comment I've seen. Seats were good though.

The EP3 looks like a grannies car to me.

I'm not sure they've been that innovative? Turbocharged 4 cylinder like the rest.

[am1w]

Honda vs Seat vs Renault:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlGCZiFyqVw&feature=player_embedded

[Poached]

Honda vs Seat vs Renault:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KlGCZiFyqVw&feature=player_embedded

Sutters nearly bounced out of the drivers seat into the roof round the track in the Civic, whats it going to be like on a road?

[NeilH]

It looked so hard. If it's like that on the road it wouldn't  make a decent daily driver. Having had a previous CTR, brilliant when you are in the mood and have the opportunity but 4 hrs to Cornwall -effin nightmare and I did that journey several times.

Neil

[Booth11]

It'd be like riding a space hopper!  No use as a daily driver., you'd have a permanent headache, and shattered teeth.

[wigit]

I think this car has the usual journo hype and how good it is on track or the ring, autocar have put it behind the megane and R

Having sat in those bucket seats I have a feeling they are not the place you want to be sat for a couple of hours, some of the boy racing brigade will love the Type R as its the stereotypical looks at me hot hatch with sub 8 ring time and will never venture near a track

I'm meant to be borrowing one for a decent test and think it will be a hoot for about an hour and novelty will wear off, also seems a bit lardy

[benmartingolf]

I had a FN2 Civic type R a few years ago. Was sad to see it go. Since having my GTI I have to say how poor the Civic was on the handling front. Lots of understeer. That could be exagerated but the Performance pack on the GTI is pretty impressive, Im looking forward to heading up to Dartmoor soon for a burn.

I quite like the look of the new Type R however I would never own one. Its abit too much for me, I work at a golf club and I can drive my GTI or could drive an R in and the members wouldnt notice them as much as the in your face Honda. Horses for courses, if I was 20 (and could have afforded one, but how many 20 year olds will be able to spend 30K on one) It might have apealed more.