Comparing S3 Sportback and R 5 Door Build Quality

[matchboy]

Slightly confused by this thread given the doors on my R hang fine and my Carbon Nappa leather looks pristine (after 7K miles).  Also, no rattles of any kind.  So unsure of the point you're trying to make?

[fredgroves]

I think if you read some Audi forums (or any other marque to be honest) you will find people moaning about faults and build problems.

Grass is greener etc etc

[monkeyhanger]

I think if you read some Audi forums (or any other marque to be honest) you will find people moaning about faults and build problems.

Grass is greener etc etc

Definitely, they share pretty much everything but the bodyshell - paint, parts, assembly techniques etc. They're sold at very similar price-points also. Audi and VW are much of a muchness once you get beyond the bodyshape and slightly better lower dash/door card plastics. Audi would have to be massively more efficient at building A3s than VW is at building Golfs for you to get a noticeably superior car for your extra £800 spent on an S3 rather than an R. No-one makes flawless cars these days, not VW, not Audi, not BMW, not even Toyota. When building in such large volumes, the bean counters of VW AG, Toyota etc are happy when 97% of the cars are made right first time, if it would cost 10% more to make 99% of the cars right first time.

[fredgroves]

And almost certainly the irony is that if you spent a lot more money on a low volume car, that would be a massive pile of gremlins... my mate had a new TVR which wasn't really a car, It was a way of disposing of money - he should have just bought an office shredder and fed 10 pound notes into it every day, at least the motor would probably have consistently run.

[Booth11]

I think if you read some Audi forums (or any other marque to be honest) you will find people moaning about faults and build problems.

Grass is greener etc etc

Exactly. 

[Exonian]

And almost certainly the irony is that if you spent a lot more money on a low volume car, that would be a massive pile of gremlins... my mate had a new TVR which wasn't really a car, It was a way of disposing of money - he should have just bought an office shredder and fed 10 pound notes into it every day, at least the motor would probably have consistently run.

 
I know what you're saying the Fred G!

[am1w]

Slightly confused by this thread given the doors on my R hang fine and my Carbon Nappa leather looks pristine (after 7K miles).  Also, no rattles of any kind.  So unsure of the point you're trying to make?

Glad your car is perfect.

My post was about some observations I made. The point is that the S3 Sportbacks appeared to me to have a better panel fit and less orange peel paintwork. But they look ever so frumpy compared to the R.
Warts and all, I much prefer the R.

[matchboy]

Glad your car is perfect.

My post was about some observations I made. The point is that the S3 Sportbacks appeared to me to have a better panel fit and less orange peel paintwork. But they look ever so frumpy compared to the R.
Warts and all, I much prefer the R.

I didn't say that.  I just commented that I don't have the issues you seem to have with your car, and also I'm not understanding the point of comparing your car to an S3 in your street and then saying that everyone's 'R bubble' has been burst - don't understand what point you're trying to make?

And as others have stated, they both use the same paintwork don't they?

[am1w]

Glad your car is perfect.

My post was about some observations I made. The point is that the S3 Sportbacks appeared to me to have a better panel fit and less orange peel paintwork. But they look ever so frumpy compared to the R.
Warts and all, I much prefer the R.

I didn't say that.  I just commented that I don't have the issues you seem to have with your car, and also I'm not understanding the point of comparing your car to an S3 in your street and then saying that everyone's 'R bubble' has been burst - don't understand what point you're trying to make?
And as others have stated, they both use the same paintwork don't they?

The orange peel in the paint is par of the course and does not bother me. I only mentioned it as a comparison.

The front passenger door needs a minor adjustment which is also not a deal breaker.

Perhaps I am being too picky.

Otherwise, the car is pretty damn good, fake noise and all. 

[Booth11]

Otherwise the car is pretty damn good, fake noise and all. 

Don't you keep saying you're going to have the Soundkator disconnected or turned down?  Or is it growing on you, unlike the crappy paint