Cold GTD vs Cold GTI Real MPG, Short Commute.

[andrewparker]

And without stage 1 at gti wouldn't make much difference?

I'd say you're probably right! Has to be an R then!

[Derv_Driver]

I still think my old MK1 Leon FR 150 would give a GTD a pretty hard time having driven both now in anger a few times.

[mcmaddy]

I had the 150 fr leon and thought it was quick. The golf is quicker though but doesn't feel it due to how it uses the power/torque. Leon was raw and not very refined where as the golf is smooth and very refined.

[Derv_Driver]

Think your right, the golf is much smoother and always shocks me when I do look at the speedo where the Leon did feel a bit thuggish when you gave it some so probably felt quicker to the driver.

leon was also happy to chug around the local ring road 30/40 MPh in 6th but the Golf isn't very forgiving and not happy to do this. You have to work it to get the most out of it.

Hit the right gear in the GTD at the right revs and it can all get very exciting very quickly.

[Poached]

My GTD is a fit as the day I got it, but the fact is that 208 has way more bhp/tonne (173 vs 134) and weighs over 200kg less.

Correct. Torque figures with no rpm does not reveal much.

[mcmaddy]

Still think a gtd driven properly wouldn't be outpaced by a 208, sorry.

[Poached]

Unlikely given the figures provided, simply the 197 bhp engine can do more work for a given period of time than the 181 bhp engine.

[ffrank]

Get the GTI, otherwise one day you'll find yourself side by side with a Peugoet 208 GTI on an uphill stretch of dual carriageway and they'll destroy you. This happened to me today.

Miss my GTI.

Or chuck a DTUK on? Destroyer of pugs.  (and stock GTI's  )

[monkeyhanger]

Get the GTI, otherwise one day you'll find yourself side by side with a Peugoet 208 GTI on an uphill stretch of dual carriageway and they'll destroy you. This happened to me today.

Miss my GTI.

Or chuck a DTUK on? Destroyer of pugs.  (and stock GTI's  )

I always seemed to attract the attention of Civic R-types with the DTUK box on - they were left for dust, Focus STs too (last shape, 225PS).

[andrewparker]

Still think a gtd driven properly wouldn't be outpaced by a 208, sorry.

I don't know why it's so hard to believe, its a smaller, lighter, more powerful car that only has a slight torque disadvantage. I should point out that I probably gained on him up until around 70mph, but after that he was pulling away.