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Offline fredgroves

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Re: Bridgestone S002 = death trap!
« Reply #60 on: 13 February 2015, 09:01 »
Has anyone tried the harder suspension bushes instead as a fix?

Would that massively change the harshness of the ride though?
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Re: Bridgestone S002 = death trap!
« Reply #61 on: 13 February 2015, 16:40 »
In which case, tyres won't fix it?

It might, because different tyre construction/compounds might induce a different harmonic...
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Re: Bridgestone S002 = death trap!
« Reply #62 on: 13 February 2015, 17:13 »
Has anyone tried the harder suspension bushes instead as a fix?

Would that massively change the harshness of the ride though?

I haven't... but doubt it would entirely solve the issue. It may reduce the tramping but the semi-cure may be worse than the disease... A road car on hard suspension bushes will not be very pleasant to drive or to ride in. Whilst, in theory, the car on stiffer bushes may handle better, in reality on your average bumpy, potholed road the softer bushed car may well reverse the theory...

Anyway, it would probably be better just to replace the tyres. I've had Conti SportContact 2 and Michelin PS3 on the front of my GTD. I have not had any tramping with either set... wheelspin yes but no tramping...

I've mooted before about the Bridgestone tyres which I have experienced in other fitments not being "death traps" and that it may be something to do with their fitment to the Golf... and this could well be to do with suspension harmonics discussed a few posts back...
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Re: Bridgestone S002 = death trap!
« Reply #63 on: 13 February 2015, 17:50 »
I wonder if the traction/stability control has anything to do with it?

If I get a chance this weekend I'll switch it off and try some testing...
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Re: Bridgestone S002 = death trap!
« Reply #64 on: 13 February 2015, 20:27 »
The Bridgestones aren't actually dangerous. Just not suited to the GTI.

The problem with them is that they are a very hard compound and therefore not so grippy, this is a major problem for a FWD car like the GTI with so much torque. The extensive testing carried out by VW/Bridgestone  was probably on a much lower torqued Golf.

I now have 4 new Conti 5s on and the difference was instant and quite amazing, VW really should not put these tyres on such a high torque car. They should know this.

The Contis (and others) are a softer compound and will not last as long but they don't ruin the car like the Bridgestones did.
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Re: Bridgestone S002 = death trap!
« Reply #65 on: 13 February 2015, 22:18 »
Well, Sorry Mr Bridgestone, after my experience recently with your tyres I don't agree.

As someone said earlier, they may very well be good tyres on some cars, but on my DSG Golf GTD they are awful. Any kind of light moisture on the road and traction is severely reduced.

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