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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #10 on: 09 November 2014, 15:23 »
That's what you've got to balance up - the value of your current GTI (and also future value), what that is worth to you, the R and monthly costs thereof which will then come to a dead stop in three years at which point you'll need transport (assuming you'll not get itchy feet again before then). Lots of figures to juggle about and lots of permutations which you can probably come up with in 'man maths'  :laugh:

Once the R400 breaks cover which might well be inside of that 31 weeks - will that tempt you?
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #11 on: 09 November 2014, 16:00 »
Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread. 

I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available.   Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order.  Spec will be:

5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist

After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals.  However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery.  This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point.  I'm a cash buyer.

Thoughts?
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Black Beauty: MK7 R 5dr DSG, DBP, 19" Pretoria, DCC, Vienna leather, Keyless, Dynaudio, DNS Pro, Rear camera, HBA
2012 MK6 GTI DSG
2008 MK5 GTI DSG
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #12 on: 09 November 2014, 16:06 »
See what deals are around in the dead of winter Frau Boothberg when dealer orders are pretty scant and they'll be chasing the factory bonuses at dealerships. Either way you'll be on course for a Sept 1st delivery unless cancellations start cropping up as people get impatient (especially those leasing or finishing PCP deals being left without transport if their build times get put back and back)
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #13 on: 09 November 2014, 20:10 »
Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread. 

I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available.   Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order.  Spec will be:

5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist

After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals.  However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery.  This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point.  I'm a cash buyer.

Thoughts?

I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #14 on: 09 November 2014, 20:39 »
Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread. 

I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available.   Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order.  Spec will be:

5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist

After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals.  However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery.  This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point.  I'm a cash buyer.

Thoughts?

I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.

Thanks, that's good to know and I'd be happy with that.  I'll be talking to a few dealers this week so we'll see what lead times they advise and if it's much later than May, I'll wait and go for Sept delivery.
Black Beauty: MK7 R 5dr DSG, DBP, 19" Pretoria, DCC, Vienna leather, Keyless, Dynaudio, DNS Pro, Rear camera, HBA
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #15 on: 09 November 2014, 20:40 »
Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread. 

I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available.   Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order.  Spec will be:

5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist

After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals.  However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery.  This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point.  I'm a cash buyer.

Thoughts?

I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.
Is that a hijacked order or a fresh one ??
Now Gone: 3dr GTI Carbon Grey Performance Pack Dynaudio
Discover Nav Park Assist Rear Camera
Picked Up: 15th March 2014


Now Gone 3dr Golf R Lapiz Blue, DSG, Dynaudio, 19" Pretoria's, Discover Nav, Keyless, Rear View Camera
Picked Up: 1st March 2015

Now Gone Too: Mk7.5 Golf GTi Performance 5dr Indium Grey DSG Dynaudio 19” Brescia Alloys Vienna Leather Keyless Entry/Start Panoramic Roof 90% Tints Park Assist Rear View Camera Voice Activation Dynamic Lane Assist/DLA

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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #16 on: 09 November 2014, 22:17 »
Hope you don't mind me jumping in on this thread. 

I too am moving to an R and have been waiting for Dynaudio to become available.   Now I'm not in a mad hurry to get one so it will be factory specced order as opposed to seeking out existing stock or a cancelled order.  Spec will be:

5 door DSG
Deep Black Pearl
19" Pretorias
Dynaudio
Vienna Leather
DCC
Discover Nav
Rear cam
Keyless
High beam assist

After a bit of thought I'd just about decided to order end Nov for a late April/May delivery (based on previous lead in times) and am currently in early stages of pursuing a number of broker deals.  However if, as you say, lead-in times have now jumped to 31 weeks, this would put delivery at around early July 2015, I'm thinking it might be as well to wait till Jan to order for 1st Sept delivery.  This was my original intention as my current mk6 GTI will be 3 years at this point.  I'm a cash buyer.

Thoughts?

I ordered a golf r last week with dynaudio,& have told to expect delivery end of April.
Is that a hijacked order or a fresh one ??
Completely fresh order & I got £22,500 for my current gti which will be 14 month old & have 11,000 miles on clock come April ,which is not bad for a car that was £27500 new.
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #17 on: 10 November 2014, 07:56 »
The R is very vocal in race mode, some people have had their dealer turn the sounaktor device down, others still have modified their Rs to have the exhaust flaps open all the time to make them even louder (2 pipes are closed off via flaps at low to medium loading but open at idle and high loading - in race mode). On a car so loud, I think dynaudio will be wasted, and the standard set-up is so good already (for a standard set-up). Don't ask me about options, I think the Vanilla one is stacked enough and I wiince when I see the residuals on the options - a fair few options can add 40% on PCP monthly payments quite easily, for the sake of a few more toys that make the everyday driving experience that tiny bit better.

I was thinking of PCPing and leaving money in the bank when the GFVs were high, now it's a cash definite after the downwards adjustment. I'll see how the number of Rs on the road have increased and if i'm worried that there are so many out there that the residuals will take a kicking, i'll get shot after 18 months. selling privately for a likely £22/23k and getting back the £5k equity from my GTD i'm putting into this deal. I'm starting to calm down a bit on that - GFVs dropping £3k was a shock, seemed a very drastic move by VW i've never seen them do before in 15 years of owning 7 new VWs. What's the alternative though? Only the S3 beats the R on a GFV basis now - the new R rate puts it on a % par with the upper Merc A-class cars and still beats the M135i
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #18 on: 10 November 2014, 08:05 »

While I agree with what you say about VWFS I try to take a more simplistic approach. I have a set amount monthly I am willing to pay. As long as I get back into my account what I put in 6 months ago and don't touch it, apart from not actually owning the car it should have enough in it to use as a deposit and start all over again in three years time.... Or am I missing something??

This is the way i'm trying to operate with financing cars from now on. When VW GFVs weren't quite as good as they are now, I was used to paying out £400 a month to be in something like a MK5 Golf 170TDI for 3 years. As the GFVs and residuals crept up I was in 2 Sciroccos and now the GTD, overpaying (still paying £400 a month) to have more equity for each change.

This time around, i'd done a rough calculation that my R was going to cost me £80 a month more in fuel than my GTD, so if it is only costing me £320 a month, i'm no worse off between car+fuelling cost. I'll need £22k down for my R, and if I end up getting rid after 18 months for the same money (because i'm worried about residuals when the lease cars hit the market), that's baiscally £5760 back (18 x £320) towards the next car, and running that R for 18 months will have basically cost me £2k lost interest leaving the £22k in the bank.
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Re: 31 Weeks lead time for an R
« Reply #19 on: 11 November 2014, 16:57 »
The only thing missing there is the balloon payment at the end which won't leave you with much cash!!  :grin:

Nice spec R btw.
I doubt I'd bother with keyless personally but it's not a bad thing to have and the R is quite 'vocal' so Dynaudio might get a bit 'lost' and both options will be sought after when you sell it used (despite not getting much actual ££ back on them)

My thoughts on Dynaudio. I have had it on both my last two cars. Scirocco & GTI and it will be the first box ticked on the next one.After a test drive of an R last Saturday with the standard set up, at least the Dynaudio  will have the B***s to rise above the rather vocal nature of the car if it all becomes a bit much which is imho more than the standard version did  :smiley:
We are all different and it makes for a good debate!!
Now Gone: 3dr GTI Carbon Grey Performance Pack Dynaudio
Discover Nav Park Assist Rear Camera
Picked Up: 15th March 2014


Now Gone 3dr Golf R Lapiz Blue, DSG, Dynaudio, 19" Pretoria's, Discover Nav, Keyless, Rear View Camera
Picked Up: 1st March 2015

Now Gone Too: Mk7.5 Golf GTi Performance 5dr Indium Grey DSG Dynaudio 19” Brescia Alloys Vienna Leather Keyless Entry/Start Panoramic Roof 90% Tints Park Assist Rear View Camera Voice Activation Dynamic Lane Assist/DLA