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Offline wigit

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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #50 on: 12 November 2014, 14:09 »
this sort of appeals to me as can ditch the olop and the R and a scratch a few itches for a second car

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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #51 on: 12 November 2014, 14:14 »
I think this engine and car combo would appeal to an awful lot of people, on paper it offers it all (and with a Sport and Sound pack might even sound half decent, from the cabin at least)
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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #52 on: 12 November 2014, 14:19 »
I think this engine and car combo would appeal to an awful lot of people, on paper it offers it all (the  with a Sport and Sound pack might even sound half decent, from the cabin at least)

Yes, but going off the extra costings on the biturbo Passat for the 240ps unit, could they supply this unit in a Golf for similar money to the current R engine? Might be closer to the R400 on price.
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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #53 on: 12 November 2014, 14:24 »
I think this engine and car combo would appeal to an awful lot of people, on paper it offers it all (the  with a Sport and Sound pack might even sound half decent, from the cabin at least)

Yes, but going off the extra costings on the biturbo Passat for the 240ps unit, could they supply this unit in a Golf for similar money to the current R engine? Might be closer to the R400 on price.

If they did it with some unique styling and special features they might just about get away with a high price tag.

I never visit the R Forum these days but when I last went over there aside from the Corsa boys looking to do a cheap lease deal there were others that described the R as a 'cheap' car!! So I think there are so many downsizers from big exec cars that don't want the size but want the performance and kudos that have the readies and will to pay an awful lot of money for a Golf.

For me personally being just a normal guy with a normal job it's kind of gradually alienating me from Golf ownership (which I've been on and off for twenty odd years) if the Golf is just steadily moving upmarket.
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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #54 on: 12 November 2014, 17:31 »
Exonian: I think the big "upmarket" push happened when the MK6 came in and prices were 20% up overnight compared to the outgoing MK5. Apart from price, the only thing separating Audi from VW right now is the interior IMO, and that gap shrunk a lot with the MK7, unfortunately so did the price gap. There's not much gap bewteen the other marques now either - BMW is now king of the rep-mobiles, and A/B/C class Mercs are feeling less and less premium these days with their very average interiors. £25k doesn't seem to get you a massive amount of car these days, car inflation has massively outstripped wage inflation in the last 7 years.

Is it any coincidence that new cars almost universally shot up by at least £2k during the scrappage scheme? £2k for your old banger (which was worth feck all), but you're no better off because your shiny new car went up £2k on RRP.
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Offline charv94

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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #55 on: 09 December 2014, 16:11 »
Exonian:


The R is, for its performance capability a cheap car. You are talking porsche standard boxter/cayman and within touching distance of the M and AMG models from mercedes and bmw.

For a golf it might be a lot of money, at the end of the day, as capable and fantastic build it has, they will lose customers because if you push the price too high, brand snobbery takes over, personally i don't care how good it is, if you pushed it to getting towards 40-50k id be seriously thinking what the hell am i doing in a VW dealership looking at a golf which someone else can buy a basic one for 15 or so thousand
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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #56 on: 09 December 2014, 18:27 »
Hi
I have a Passat bi Turbo on order since its launch in Oct, with a build wk of week 2.
A Golf with that engine would need the 4 motion due to 500 nm and thus push the price up as previously said.
some of the 5100 uplift is the 4 motion and also the spec such as the std full LED head lights which are a £1400 option on rest of range. But I agree its a big uplift....but a great new engine non the less.
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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #57 on: 09 December 2014, 20:16 »
You can push out 500nm on a dtuk equipped gtd and you get full led lights. 5100 for 4 motion doesn't as up when it's not an extra 5k for an R
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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #58 on: 09 December 2014, 20:45 »
Its probably all a moot point anyway, seeing as there is a current backlash against evil diesel...

I'd be surprised if there was even another GTD in Mk8 guise, let alone a GTD-R that kills a dozen children/kittens with every press of the throttle.
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Re: GTD-R
« Reply #59 on: 09 December 2014, 22:45 »
Its probably all a moot point anyway, seeing as there is a current backlash against evil diesel...

I'd be surprised if there was even another GTD in Mk8 guise, let alone a GTD-R that kills a dozen children/kittens with every press of the throttle.

I think they will have the ACT type setup in te next mark GTI
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