How hot?

[silver38]

I don't see it mentioned, is this oil temp. you're referring to? If so it should be 10-15 degrees above water  temp.

[monsta]

With an APR map it's running at about 100-105 

[VWcezGTI7]

With an APR map it's running at about 100-105 

Is that lower than you had before the remap?

I suppose that oil life is reduced if it heats up to higher temps? Might explain why my dealer suggested I change oil more often

[monsta]

With an APR map it's running at about 100-105 

Is that lower than you had before the remap?

I suppose that oil life is reduced if it heats up to higher temps? Might explain why my dealer suggested I change oil more often

Yeah it goes down with the remap for some reason...

[Snoopy]

My mk6 sits at 99-102 all day so is about the same as discussed here for the mk7

[GiT1984]

This is interesting as I was just about to post a thread up on oil temperature .... When I read this.

In normal running - mine never seems to be lower than 103 degrees (once warmed up) and will often sit at 106 to 108 degrees in traffic. A fast cross country run will see it go over 110 degrees quite quickly and I've seen 116 degrees on a few runs. In fact the only time it runs cool at speed is on the motorway at a steady cruise.

Now I'm fortunate enough to have a current model Boxster S for comparison and this lives at 90 to 95 degrees under the same driving and even on track I couldn't get it to go over 107 degrees. This leads me to believe that the airflow (or cooling from the fans) isn't up to the job, so my question is whether the GTi has an oil cooler and whether this is easy to upgrade? 

[monkeyhanger]

If the water is sitting happily at 90c then you've almost certainly got nowt to worry about, the car doesn't mind the oil being this hot. Newer cars with modern oils. I've got the car's oil up to 116c before.

[Jackie Treehorn]

This is interesting as I was just about to post a thread up on oil temperature .... When I read this.

In normal running - mine never seems to be lower than 103 degrees (once warmed up) and will often sit at 106 to 108 degrees in traffic. A fast cross country run will see it go over 110 degrees quite quickly and I've seen 116 degrees on a few runs. In fact the only time it runs cool at speed is on the motorway at a steady cruise.

Now I'm fortunate enough to have a current model Boxster S for comparison and this lives at 90 to 95 degrees under the same driving and even on track I couldn't get it to go over 107 degrees. This leads me to believe that the airflow (or cooling from the fans) isn't up to the job, so my question is whether the GTi has an oil cooler and whether this is easy to upgrade? 

Is that water?  cause i can't remember seeing a oil temp gauge in the 987 (unless its not a 987).

Cars like to run oil temps hot these days as it helps to burn off containments in the oil apparently.  Fuel from diesel regens, or rich fuel mixture in petrols cars on stop start driving in town, these cars like to burn this off to produce oil longevity so it vapours off out of the oil. Also the water temp gauges are set with a considerable buffer so customers don't worry.  Once your car is up to temp the gauge will NEVER vary no matter if its in town or track or cruising at 56mph.  This is so customers don't worry, so a massive tolerance is built in to the gauge.

[kenny.c]

The higher temps are to reduce internal engine friction on the EA888 ph3...The ecu can adjust both the water and oil temp depending on engine load and enables rapid warmup. For example the water temp is kept at 107 degrees then when low engine loads are demanded this is reduced to 85 degrees as engine load increases. Oil temp is also altered according to engine load....

I suspect APR may have "played" with the ECU control of both oil and water temperature profiles as the coolant temp is used to reduce knock in the engine.

VW/Audi claim this tight control of the water/oil system has reduced emissions by 2.5g co2/km

Ken

[GiT1984]

This is interesting as I was just about to post a thread up on oil temperature .... When I read this.

In normal running - mine never seems to be lower than 103 degrees (once warmed up) and will often sit at 106 to 108 degrees in traffic. A fast cross country run will see it go over 110 degrees quite quickly and I've seen 116 degrees on a few runs. In fact the only time it runs cool at speed is on the motorway at a steady cruise.

Now I'm fortunate enough to have a current model Boxster S for comparison and this lives at 90 to 95 degrees under the same driving and even on track I couldn't get it to go over 107 degrees. This leads me to believe that the airflow (or cooling from the fans) isn't up to the job, so my question is whether the GTi has an oil cooler and whether this is easy to upgrade? 

Is that water?  cause i can't remember seeing a oil temp gauge in the 987 (unless its not a 987).

Cars like to run oil temps hot these days as it helps to burn off containments in the oil apparently.  Fuel from diesel regens, or rich fuel mixture in petrols cars on stop start driving in town, these cars like to burn this off to produce oil longevity so it vapours off out of the oil. Also the water temp gauges are set with a considerable buffer so customers don't worry.  Once your car is up to temp the gauge will NEVER vary no matter if its in town or track or cruising at 56mph.  This is so customers don't worry, so a massive tolerance is built in to the gauge.

Hi Jackie - no it's a 981 and only 911's had oil temp / pressure gauges until this model of Boxster.

What you, kenny.c and Monkeyhanger have said does make sense and I understand the water temp bit - it's just that I get uneasy seeing oil temps this high. Still it probably explains why the GTi has the sootiest exhaust pipes of any car I've ever owned .....