Bye-bye GTi hello R

[virginVWman]

Matchboy: Couldn't agree more, I mean there may be the odd muppet who would agree with what they've offered but gulliable or stupid comes to mind. I rang orangewheels back and literally said give me 18k as a px figure, the £3800 discount added to my settlement figure meaning il have the equivalent of a £5000 equity as a deposit to make on the R, he said he was going to call me back after speaking to his boss. Id prefer to deal with Edinburgh but the lads not back till Thu.

Need to test drive one though. May need to call and organise this rather than rocking up on a Saturday

[matchboy]

Matchboy: Couldn't agree more, I mean there may be the odd muppet who would agree with what they've offered but gulliable or stupid comes to mind. I rang orangewheels back and literally said give me 18k as a px figure, the £3800 discount added to my settlement figure meaning il have the equivalent of a £5000 equity as a deposit to make on the R, he said he was going to call me back after speaking to his boss. Id prefer to deal with Edinburgh but the lads not back till Thu.

Need to test drive one though. May need to call and organise this rather than rocking up on a Saturday

Yes, I don't know who would accept those kinds of figures but I certainly wouldn't!  The dealer I'm actually buying from had an unregistered R, in silver, with a few extras on it, that they'd just taken delivery of as a demo - and I enquired about that first.  The finance chap there was happy to do me a discount on a factory order, but he wouldn't appy any discount to that particular car - his reason being is that he expects someone to walk in off the street and pay full whack for that R.  It was £38k.  Unless you're stupid you wouldn't pay anywhere near that for it.  But he was adamant that he would sell it with zero discount, and wouldn't budge even though I would have bought that car at the time there and then (just to save time waiting for a factory order).  A big little part of me hopes its still there collecting dust 

Yes, have a drive - but you won't be disappointed.  It's immense.  And as long as you can get past the fact that it's going to cost a few more quid at the petrol station/car tax, it really is a no brainer given the price of the GTI at the moment in comparison.

[virginVWman]

Just got a quote for insurance also, Mum as a driver (only to cheapen the deal, shed never drive it for obvious reasons) but £268.00 with esure with excesses of £400.00?! My god that's cheap. I pay more than that at the moment for the GTD

[monkeyhanger]

Moggy, I’ve only gone and bought via a broker once – a 140TDI GT MK5 Golf from Lookers in Burnley. Every other time I’ve gone and managed to play the local dealership groups into getting within £100 of cost to change via the broker (saving the petrol money spent and the potential hassle of dealing with a place many miles away, just in case you see some damage that should have been picked up at PDI etc). Silverlink is awful in my experience for buying, Scotswood road less so, but had bad experiences post sales with both. You’ve done well with that R, getting DSG for £500 and rear view camera isn’t a dear option anyway to have to stomach buying it to get an R 5 months earlier than VW would have built you one for. Sounds like they didn’t try and screw you on the p/x either (I suppose them getting a buyer for a cancelled order meant they didn’t want to try and mess you about.

[TheMoggy]

MH: In fairness to JCT600 they did say try and sell it privately but in all honesty I didn't want the tyre kickers knocking at my door wanting a test drive (that is what Benfield and Pullman are there for  ) and in the end they gave me a great P/X

I bought from Carwow for the GTi but then direct for the R. JCT600 customer service was great and any problem I had or accessory I needed (e.g. iPhone5 cable) they were on it like a bonnet!!!

[monkeyhanger]

Matchboy: Couldn't agree more, I mean there may be the odd muppet who would agree with what they've offered but gulliable or stupid comes to mind. I rang orangewheels back and literally said give me 18k as a px figure, the £3800 discount added to my settlement figure meaning il have the equivalent of a £5000 equity as a deposit to make on the R, he said he was going to call me back after speaking to his boss. Id prefer to deal with Edinburgh but the lads not back till Thu.

Need to test drive one though. May need to call and organise this rather than rocking up on a Saturday

I’m sure they’ll fold to those terms (£18k p/x) on the assumption yours is well looked after (and will be to March). Get those tyres rotated so you don’t have to buy any fronts before March.

Get that test drive booked locally, you won’t be disappointed. Maybe if you get it done sharpish you can get your local to match the potential Orangewheels price to change (or even beat it), depending how much allocation for R they’ve got currently unused. I would go in to Edinburgh saying Orangewheels are giving you £18.3k for yours and the discounted price. Ask if they can do same cost to change. If they umm and ahh, say “lets do £18k on the p/x, you throw in the £199 service pack (it’s back with solutions) and I’ll forget about the other £100 I would’ve spent on fuel getting to and from Chester”.

[virginVWman]

Matchboy: Couldn't agree more, I mean there may be the odd muppet who would agree with what they've offered but gulliable or stupid comes to mind. I rang orangewheels back and literally said give me 18k as a px figure, the £3800 discount added to my settlement figure meaning il have the equivalent of a £5000 equity as a deposit to make on the R, he said he was going to call me back after speaking to his boss. Id prefer to deal with Edinburgh but the lads not back till Thu.

Need to test drive one though. May need to call and organise this rather than rocking up on a Saturday

I’m sure they’ll fold to those terms (£18k p/x) on the assumption yours is well looked after (and will be to March). Get those tyres rotated so you don’t have to buy any fronts before March.

Get that test drive booked locally, you won’t be disappointed. Maybe if you get it done sharpish you can get your local to match the potential Orangewheels price to change (or even beat it), depending how much allocation for R they’ve got currently unused. I would go in to Edinburgh saying Orangewheels are giving you £18.3k for yours and the discounted price. Ask if they can do same cost to change. If they umm and ahh, say “lets do £18k on the p/x, you throw in the £199 service pack (it’s back with solutions) and I’ll forget about the other £100 I would’ve spent on fuel getting to and from Chester”.

You just fancy doing the negotion for me lol. Id much prefer to give a local dealer the business than  treck down to Chester.

[monkeyhanger]

TheMoggy:

That’s the problem with driving such an expensive car.

You have a car that’ll be up for £22-23k in March on the forecourt, you get offered £18k (fair) p/x, but you could potentially advertise it for £20k for it privately because you’ve got to be appreciably cheaper than the garage to stop people just going to the garage, and then they might want to knock £500-1000 off what you are asking. Not many people have £20k cash to drop on a nearly new car, most will be relying on finance and even if they were to get a personal loan instead to buy yours, most personal loans top out at £15k, and they’ll also have a p/x to get shot of.
 
Then you have the tyre kickers and wondering if someone will buy it close to the time the new one is coming so you’re not without a car for weeks between getting shot of the old one and picking up the new one. There’s a lot to be said for convenience, even if it does end up costing a grand. A fair p/x will get me every time unless I have a mate that’s said “I’ll buy your car from you when you’re done with it”.

It's no bother at all selling a £5k car privately, but a £20k car is a b'stard.

[blueheaduk]

Sounds like I'm in a similar postion to the above though I'm one year into a 5 year hire purchase on my 63 reg 5dr manual GTI PP with under 11k miles.

Dealer is offering a 20k part exchange which would drop to about 19400 in January. Do you think that's pretty fair or could I shop around a bit? I'm not sure how much I could squeeze from a private sale for the reasons mentioned above?





On another note - with the R can anyone comment on how worthwhile DSG is over a manual? Every GTI/R video I see these days is a DSG with the characteristic gear change burp - but does the noise change otherwise? Always seems way louder than what it does inside my manual when revving up!

[Bluefloyd]

Looks like there will be a few dtuk boxes going cheap soon . Congrats on the new orders, very nice motors indeed. A friends boss has a black one that looks awesome(when clean ) and goes like sh1t off a shovel. You guys definitely have itchy feet syndrome. I don't change my underpants as much as you change your cars