help with timing marks, mine are out or am I wrong

[geedubyagraham]

The problem is the tippex mark is what someone has put on and set the timing on that, the proper mark is miles out so Im not sure how the car even runs! Theres a rabbit off somewhere I think

[weazgti]

Time to get the camera out and post some pics up

[Sgt_Lemon]

Keep in mind some people choose to ignore timing marks and make their own. He may have placed that there and another random mark on the cam sprocket when changing a belt and tried to put everything back where it was without trying to mess with the timing. Best way to check is to remove the spark plug from cylinder 1 (the one closest to the cam sprocket) and hand crank the engine until the flywheel dot is lined up. Once you have this then go and look what position the piston is in cylinder 1. You want this piston to be right at the top of travel (tdc). (Whatever you do don't use the rubber end of a pencil to see if it's at the top as it may snap off and require you to take the head off to retrieve it, you would have to be an idiot to do something like that  )

Side note: you should remove all spark plugs before hand cranking as otherwise you are trying to crank again the compression.

[gazareth]

maybe the ignition timing was set of ht lead 2 or 3 if the tipex mark is 180 out to the tdc mark. I had a look at mine earlier and there is a tipex line about 12mm from the dot on the flywheel.(tipex line to front of car)

[clipperjay]

Go old skool use a bit of solider stick it down the plug hole and turn crank that will mark the solider when it hits TDC!  

[geedubyagraham]

Keep in mind some people choose to ignore timing marks and make their own. He may have placed that there and another random mark on the cam sprocket when changing a belt and tried to put everything back where it was without trying to mess with the timing. Best way to check is to remove the spark plug from cylinder 1 (the one closest to the cam sprocket) and hand crank the engine until the flywheel dot is lined up. Once you have this then go and look what position the piston is in cylinder 1. You want this piston to be right at the top of travel (tdc). (Whatever you do don't use the rubber end of a pencil to see if it's at the top as it may snap off and require you to take the head off to retrieve it, you would have to be an idiot to do something like that  )

Side note: you should remove all spark plugs before hand cranking as otherwise you are trying to crank again the compression.

This was my next plan, I think ill line everything up tomorrow ie cam wheel and see if cylinder 1 is at tdc, if its not tdc I suppose itll be a whole timing set up from scratch? And thanks for the pencil advice ill stick to the bit of dowl ive got haha

[Sgt_Lemon]

The pencil is something I did last year haha, now I use a massive cable tie so there is no chance of it breaking.

[theclash]

Take bung out of gearbox and set flywheel to tdc mark  check cam mark on sprocket and check where rotor arm is in relation to small mark on the dizzy if cam mark is in the right place and rotar arm is there or there abouts get your timing light and adjust dizzy to 6 btdc mark on flywheel whilst reving engine 2500. I found it best to set cam with  OT mark on small plastic cam cover
Hope this helps

[geedubyagraham]

Take bung out of gearbox and set flywheel to tdc mark  check cam mark on sprocket and check where rotor arm is in relation to small mark on the dizzy if cam mark is in the right place and rotar arm is there or there abouts get your timing light and adjust dizzy to 6 btdc mark on flywheel whilst reving engine 2500. I found it best to set cam with  OT mark on small plastic cam cover
Hope this helps

Cheers but as I mentioned on previous posts ive done that, the OT mark lines up as does the dizzy but fly wheel mark cant be seen when I do this.

[weazgti]

Pretty sure it's possible to put flywheel on so marks are out