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Offline jivemonkey

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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #10 on: 28 January 2014, 16:04 »
Just to chime in here, I think the front LED fogs add a lot to appearance of the GTI with the 'intake looking' black trim pieces leading to them. Can't see any reference to LED fogs on the R and when choosing the R in the VW comparison page before configuring nothing lights up as it does for the GTi and GTD.

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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #11 on: 28 January 2014, 16:25 »
I know that the Golf R does have the double U shape daytime running lights as well.  But this aside I have to agree the Audi R8 style black rakes going back in to the Fog lights adds a lot to the appeal of the GTI. I suspect I may see a Golf R in the near future and think it looks great but the styling of the GTI has more going for it from what I have seen of both cars and the added bonus is you can spec your GTI up to a higher spec for similar money to a Golf R. Just don't expect to keep up with one in your GTI if you see it at lights. 

The Golf R is going to be a fantastic car if the GTI is anything to go by.  But  I just feel more could have been done with the front Skirt and styling of the car.  The Golf R Mk6 looks stunning I so wanted one but could not afford it back then.     

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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #12 on: 28 January 2014, 16:37 »
Im not really bringing anything to this thread other than to give you a laugh... :laugh:

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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #13 on: 28 January 2014, 16:42 »
http://app.volkswagen.ie/ihdcc/en/configurator.html#summary/30670/30021/5G1RXU$GPLAPLA$GW4BW4B$GZCAZCA/2014/1/F14 0Q0Q/F56     TW/+/+/+

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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #14 on: 28 January 2014, 16:47 »
Hmmmm, I think most people in the market for a GTI will look towards the R and wonder…

Wigit went to see the R in the flesh in Germany when it was launched so can share his thoughts on the styling more accurately than most of us. I think the front bumper is very similar to the German R Line spec with added vents so will be quite beefy in the flesh but still very understated.

The GTI has real presence and my car gets loads of approving comments, and a mate was sat in work looking at used GTIs (older ones) but mk7's came up in the search and I looked at the price of some of them.
Nearly £40k for some used GTI's!!! C'mon!

So what we have here is VW know that people will buy a GTI because its a GTI and will spec it highly as they can afford to. They might not have the desire for an R as to them it's overkill.

I think an R will appeal to a different buyer in general and will generally be bought by very discerning buyers who just want the ultimate model no matter whether they have the use for the extra performance or not.

Would I rather have 300 bhp and 4wd as standard? Yes
Can I afford an R? Yes, probably, don't see why not as it's not hugely more expensive than a GTI PP.
Will I look at getting an R to replace my GTI in a few years? I don't owe anything on my GTI so it all depends on the deal BUT at the end of the day I'm more than happy with the GTI.
I prefer the looks, I can make it as quick as an R in theory (ignoring the 4wd traction) and for me lighter body weight is far more important than extra BHP.
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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #15 on: 28 January 2014, 16:53 »
http://app.volkswagen.ie/ihdcc/en/configurator.html#summary/30670/30021/5G1RXU$GPLAPLA$GW4BW4B$GZCAZCA/2014/1/F14 0Q0Q/F56     TW/+/+/+

So what youre saying is that a golf R is £43,616.53 standard in Ireland, best go to Ulster and buy one, then get a private plate depending where you live :smiley:
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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #16 on: 28 January 2014, 17:03 »
Ive only ever seen 1 Mk6 R here.

Driving a Mk7 R here would take the feeling of exclusivity to a whole new level!!
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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #17 on: 28 January 2014, 17:44 »
I have a feeling the R will look better in the flesh.  I may be in a minority but I rather like the understated quality of it, though there is some disparity between the subtle styling of the front and the agressive rear with the quad exhausts.  The R looks like a sleeper.

There are elements of the gti that look more agressive, but I still don't like the red stripe in the headlights at all.

If he's trying to choose between a  a fully loaded gti or a vanilla spec R, he needs to think a little down the line.  Day in, day out, would your friend really miss those additional options? Or would the performance of the R outweigh that?

I think Exonian makes some good points.  I am leaning towards an R in 2015 but only if I can afford it with my wish list options.  If not, then it would have to be a high spec gti.   Only your friend can know what is most important to him.
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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #18 on: 28 January 2014, 18:03 »
My friend at work is leaning towards a vanilla spec Golf R.  It is a choice between a vanilla spec Golf R or Range Rover Evoque which costs £15K more?

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Re: Golf GTI with Extras vs Golf R Base model?
« Reply #19 on: 28 January 2014, 18:13 »
Golf R all day long, the GTi will always be in its shadow as a lower spec model regardless of the number of boxes ticked on the options list.
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