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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #20 on: 18 January 2014, 12:39 »
Sharpens throttle response so in theory you will be faster. Also I read somewhere you can only achieve Top speed in normal and sport, somewhere near this table in the manual

Assuming the modes work the same with my GTD as your GTI, Sport mode has a sharper response at the lower end, but there's noticeably more power in the upper range when i'm in Normal mode: 30-80mph sprint is quicker for mine in Normal and Normal is about 10% thirstier than running in Sport.

If you disregard the mpg losses, it is a better driving experience in normal on the GTD as the reined in power at the lower end mitigates the likelihood of tramping, then once you're rolling you can put more power down. In Sport, my GTD feels the same as my 170TDI Scirocco in acceleration, but in normal you can tell it has 14PS more.

Seems odd that Sport is less sporty across the whole driving range than Normal.
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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #21 on: 18 January 2014, 14:31 »
Some call it a "soundakator" I've seen one on a colleagues, it's a small black box under the plastic grill that sort of covers over the windscreen wiper connections. Pulled the rubber seal off and eased up the plastic grill (from the engine side) reach in and disconnected his. Each to their own eh, I quite like the sound of it so doubt I will be disconnecting mine when it finally arrives :)
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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #22 on: 18 January 2014, 15:54 »
Some call it a "soundakator" I've seen one on a colleagues, it's a small black box under the plastic grill that sort of covers over the windscreen wiper connections. Pulled the rubber seal off and eased up the plastic grill (from the engine side) reach in and disconnected his. Each to their own eh, I quite like the sound of it so doubt I will be disconnecting mine when it finally arrives :)

Do you have any pictures of this? Was this a MK7 as i have seen a few MK6's with this mod.

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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #23 on: 18 January 2014, 16:09 »
Sharpens throttle response so in theory you will be faster. Also I read somewhere you can only achieve Top speed in normal and sport, somewhere near this table in the manual

Assuming the modes work the same with my GTD as your GTI, Sport mode has a sharper response at the lower end, but there's noticeably more power in the upper range when i'm in Normal mode: 30-80mph sprint is quicker for mine in Normal and Normal is about 10% thirstier than running in Sport.
If you disregard the mpg losses, it is a better driving experience in normal on the GTD as the reined in power at the lower end mitigates the likelihood of tramping, then once you're rolling you can put more power down. In Sport, my GTD feels the same as my 170TDI Scirocco in acceleration, but in normal you can tell it has 14PS more.

Seems odd that Sport is less sporty across the whole driving range than Normal.

You might wanna get some logs done on vcds on that one, does seem strange. My sport mode feels faster than normal, yes sone of its in my head
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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #24 on: 18 January 2014, 16:12 »
It's a brilliant idea on a derv, petrol sound with twice the economy, it's the future no doubt. And in answer to the other question it was about a mk7 but it was never shown and could be Top gear bs

I think the future is a GTI with cylinder deactivation, the GTD could be extinct if that happens. Look at the 140TSI ACT GT. It has a combined figure of 58.9mpg and 140PS, with 0-62 sprint 0.2s faster than the 150PS 2.0TDI (maybe that's high torque/low traction on the TDI, but faster when on moderately short journeys moving). Plenty of people on the forums with the ACT getting 50mpg - they're getting a lot closer to published figures than GTIs and GTDs are.

Imagine a GTI ACT with an easily achievable 45mpg in everyday use. That pretty much matches what i'm getting with the GTD. Would I buy a 220PS real 45mpg GTI over a 184PS GTD with maybe a real 50mpg (based on 15 mile journeys)? Hell yes!

Could cylinder deactivation work on the TDI to redress the advantage, or would the gains be too small to justify the extra cost?

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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #25 on: 18 January 2014, 16:26 »
my sport mode is 10 to 15% worse for mpgs than normal or comfort.
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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #26 on: 18 January 2014, 18:13 »
my sport mode is 10 to 15% worse for mpgs than normal or comfort.

Sometimes I wonder whether my modes are labelled wrong in the displays. Sport mode feels like it should be normal mode and normal mode feels like it should be sport mode - a coding glitch perhaps if mine is the only one like this?

My car is definitely more powerful and also consistently 10% thirstier on my commute in my "Normal" mode.

Sport and Eco end up with the same result for my mpg, I just end up having to drive Eco mode a lot harder to get the same result.
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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #27 on: 18 January 2014, 18:26 »

You might wanna get some logs done on vcds on that one, does seem strange. My sport mode feels faster than normal, yes sone of its in my head

In my semi-scientific dash from Billy Mill roundabout starting at 25mph at a slip road to a sign I use as a marker, I could pass it at 80mph in my MK5 170TDI PD, 78mph in my 140TDI CR Scirocco, 83mph in the Scirocco 170TDI CR, and 81 mph in my GTD (Sport mode, best attempt). All in bone dry, non-windy conditions, only real variable was the temperature, and the GTD was done at 18C with 1000 miles on the clock mid-October, so not comparing freezing with boiling ambient temp.

For this reason I thought my GTD was only kicking out 160PS and looked into the tuning box options.

I gave Normal a go out of curiosity recently and passed the sign at 85mph twice in 2 attempts, both in the dry at about 8C. Definitely think my Sport is Normal in disguise, except the steering is heavier and more direct and the Soundaktor is louder in Sport mode.
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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #28 on: 18 January 2014, 18:58 »
Monkeyhanger, you are not alone! I posted a while back stating Normal seemed quicker than Sport (this was when I switched from Sport to Normal whilst the car had been driven a while). Sometimes when I start off in Normal then switch to Sport shortly after the car seems to respond better (not always) and vice versa too so I think the modes mean nothing when it comes to speed rather than driving style (steering/sound/DCC etc...) This is just my experience though....
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Re: Driving profile modes - What they change
« Reply #29 on: 18 January 2014, 19:31 »
Monkeyhanger, you are not alone! I posted a while back stating Normal seemed quicker than Sport (this was when I switched from Sport to Normal whilst the car had been driven a while). Sometimes when I start off in Normal then switch to Sport shortly after the car seems to respond better (not always) and vice versa too so I think the modes mean nothing when it comes to speed rather than driving style (steering/sound/DCC etc...) This is just my experience though....

I think it is pretty normal to assume Sport is quicker and for me it should be, but the poorer mpg in Normal and faster acceleration as measured by my rough around the edges experimentation leads me to believe that for my car at least, Normal is definitely quicker than Sport. It's the mid-range I really feel it, pick-up just feels a bit livelier from 1900rpm, rather than 2100rpm in the Sport mode. A VW mistake in set-up?

I stay in Sport most of the time because i'm too tight to take the 10% hit on already crap mpg!  :grin:
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