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Offline mullermn

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VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« on: 10 January 2014, 10:53 »
...atleast not without changing the rolling radius of the tyres, requiring recalibration of the speedo and changing the handling of the car.

This is something I've just been told by my dealer who has been given the information direct from his lead technician in the service department.

As far as I can tell from this forum and the internet in general, this is complete rubbish, am I right?

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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #1 on: 10 January 2014, 10:58 »
Someone doesn't know what they are talking about at VW.

My GTi PP is running on 17" winter wheels. Summer tyres are on 18" Austins. In fact 17" are standard in Switzerland and 18" are an extra...

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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #2 on: 10 January 2014, 10:59 »
As far as I can tell you can fit 17" wheels to the GTI and with the appropriate tyres maintain (with a percent or two) the rolling radius. The key thing is, whether, the wheel itself (with an appropriate offset) will fit over the brakes...

Changing to 17" tyres may affect the handling but it is unlikely to make it dangerous  - it may have slightly less grip but on the road I doubt you'll notice - and may even improve the ride
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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #3 on: 10 January 2014, 11:03 »
Complete rubbish. 17's are standard here in Ireland and many other countries. The 18's are a factory option. You just need to keep the rolling circumference the same by fitting slightly higher profile tyres.
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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #4 on: 10 January 2014, 11:05 »
Here's my GTi PP on 17" wheels:


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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #5 on: 10 January 2014, 11:09 »
I don't have the car yet or otherwise I would have posted a picture of it with the 16" steel wheels for winter, as approved by VW.

Also, 17s here as standard as others have said.
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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #6 on: 10 January 2014, 11:12 »
Yep, that's what I thought.

I'm so disappointed with VW. The car is great, the entire sales process and any contact with VW at all is a shambles.

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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #7 on: 10 January 2014, 13:23 »
...atleast not without changing the rolling radius of the tyres, requiring recalibration of the speedo and changing the handling of the car.

This is something I've just been told by my dealer who has been given the information direct from his lead technician in the service department.

As far as I can tell from this forum and the internet in general, this is complete rubbish, am I right?

Point out to the salesman that the techie is trying to be a little bit too careful. I understand that any advice he gives they have to be able to legally back up so they'd not want to tell you that something fits when it won't but c'mon, the GTI is sold on 17" wheels on the continent.
The mk5 and mk6 had 17" wheels as standard too and are the same fitment. The UK just gets the option to make the GTI competitive price wise in the market and attractive enough to compete as it's a big hot hatch buying market.

If you don't have the big brakes of the PP even 16s will fit
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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #8 on: 10 January 2014, 17:00 »
It's another prime example of dealers with bugger all product knowledge.

Most cars salesmen may as well be selling cheese. They are finance salesman who will include a car for you as a byproduct of the deal. When I bought my Passat, the salesman seemed to be out of his comfort zone when I told him that I would pay in full with my debit card when I picked the car up.
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Re: VW say you can't use 17" wheels on the GTI
« Reply #9 on: 10 January 2014, 17:07 »
It's another prime example of dealers with bugger all product knowledge.

Most cars salesmen may as well be selling cheese. They are finance salesman who will include a car for you as a byproduct of the deal. When I bought my Passat, the salesman seemed to be out of his comfort zone when I told him that I would pay in full with my debit card when I picked the car up.

Yeah, that's what we did and the dealer really didn't like it, not least because we wouldn't confirm how we were going to pay until the end.
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