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Offline Raffe

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #10 on: 02 January 2014, 17:09 »
Rite i'm going to get abuse but i always put the newer tyres on the front as these are the driven wheels and hold the weight of the engine the rears as you know to none of the driving and have little weight of them this is me anyway, i've heard good things about the f1's don't rate pirellis too soft i'm sticking with the falken f453 never buy nankang for my gtd

It's much safer to have a fwd car which under steers rather than over steers, old tyres on the rear will promote the latter.

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #11 on: 02 January 2014, 17:12 »
But oversteer is far more fun  :wink:

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #12 on: 02 January 2014, 17:15 »
I disagree the rears are not slicks and oversteer can be generated by bad driving lifting off in to corners etc i drove to stafford yesterday from wales with a lot of standing warer was aqua planning all over the shop (tht was fun :) and neither the front nor rear out performed the other

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #13 on: 02 January 2014, 17:15 »
Rite i'm going to get abuse but i always put the newer tyres on the front as these are the driven wheels and hold the weight of the engine the rears as you know to none of the driving and have little weight of them this is me anyway

Most cars are set up to understeer. In the event of taking a corner a little too fast, or taking evasive action, if understeer occurs, the natural reaction to this will be to lift off the throttle. This in turn could result a snap to lift off oversteer, which the vast majority of average Joe drivers wouldn't be able to deal with and would end up backwards through the sticks.

By fitting better tyres to the rear, they are slightly less prone to breaking away, therefore reducing the possibility of lift off oversteer.

Personally I try to rotate my tyres front to back, so that they all wear out at the same time and I get to buy a set of four all at once. It is slightly harder on the pocket at the time, but ultimately doesn't cost any more.
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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #14 on: 02 January 2014, 17:37 »
With reference rotating i also do this as the front wear a lot quicker than the rears to so you can longer out of a set of tyres

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #15 on: 02 January 2014, 19:19 »
The tyres with the most grip, (generally the newer tyres) should be fitted to the rear. This produces the most stable handling. My advice is swap the rears to the front and put the new tyres on the rear, unless of course you are rich enough to replace them all.

Mustard is bang on. Always most important to have the new tyres on the rear on a front wheel drive car. Harder to control a slide if the rear breaks free (know this from experience!). It's much easier to control under steer.
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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #16 on: 02 January 2014, 20:28 »
I have in the past put the brand new tyres on the rear and move the rears to the front. What I have found then is that the handling characteristics then feel a bit weird initially as the front tyres (ex rears) obviously have had different wear characteristics placed on them, as they have not been the steering wheels.

I do find then that the new fronts seem to wear much faster from that point so it is probably not too long until those need to be replaced anyway.

I do support the argument for the best grip to rearward.

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #17 on: 02 January 2014, 22:07 »
Also think about this the front does minimum 60% of braking if you have to slam on the nose is gonna dip look a good un which tyres are gonna grip? The front like s**t to a blanket what are the rear gonna do? Nothing as they will be nearly of the tarmac i'll stick mine you stick to urs :)

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #18 on: 02 January 2014, 22:08 »
Take on board the comments however my conti's are almost new and have about 5mm so swapping them to the front wouldn't make that much difference surely?  understand if my rears were more worn.

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Re: 2 or 4 New Tyres?
« Reply #19 on: 02 January 2014, 22:16 »
I have the newon the front an when i need a new pair of rears i put the part worns on the bk