question about stretch tyres

[Diamond Hell]

This is sooooo funny.

I'm 38, nearly 39 and run 215/35's on 9.5's.

Never been pulled, passes an MOT every year, and couldn't give 2 hoots what anyone thinks, or think they know what they are talking about or quote from the web.

Obfuscation and bollocks, to be honest.

People have explained construction & Use and put up guidance from copper's interpretation of the law and that's all you can come back with?

'you can all go away because I'll do what I want, so ner ner ner'

Oh please.

TBH it looks like you do about 100 miles a year in that Golf of yours, maybe you're pally with your MOT tester.  You're not terribly likely to get pulled over, are you?  They're more likely to be interested in the masking tape flapping around on your car than the wheels, or they might go for the white rear plate instead.

As your car by your own admission has torn its own arch trims off because it was running so low you're hardly one to contribute on what the law has to say about wheels/tyres/bodywork, because it definitely says if the wheels touch the bodywork it will fail an MOT, which means it's not legal, or safe.

What the little children in this thread seem to fail to understand is that the law is not and never has been black and white, it is all down to interpretation, by coppers, lawyers and then judges and juries.

What do you think the above will use to demonstrate to a court that your car is unsafe or caused an accident?  They will use manufacturers guidelines, of course.  If you're outside of them and it can be demonstrated that contributed to a situation that caused you to wind up in court, then a court has an increased likelihood of finding you guilty of whatever it was that brought you to the court.

Aside from all this, running stupid wheel and tyre combos is likely to increase your chances of spending time talking about your tyres and wheels with men in silly hats and a dim view of those who don't conform with 'normal'.  Maybe that rings your bellend, but it does nothing for mine.

So, how many of those running stretched tyres have called their insurers and told them their tyres and rim combination that they're running are outside of manufacturer's guidelines?

[andy_k]

I have. 

And it affected my premium by f**k all.

Manufacturers Recommendations also mean f**k all.  After all, I recommend that all middle lane hoggers shoot themselves in the face, but getting that recommendation to stand in a court of law ain't gonna happen.

so you actually told your insurers that you have fitted tyres to rims that the tyre manufacturer states are potentially dangerous or did you just fudge it a little bit in your favour?

[Shizzle]

I do a lot more than that week and have had no problems never been pulled over and have driven past a fair few traffic cops not just police cars and haven't looked twice and my wheels are red so not like they didn't see them. My rim doesn't protrude my arch so its also legal i may not be sticking to the guidelines of the tyres but they are guidelines not law but that's the same as you saying you have never broke the speed limit in your hole life that is the law and without a doubt you have broken the limit more than once. A lot of you on here are Hippocrates and have broken the law with your cars but are quick enough to point out some one not sticking to the guidelines that is NOT THE LAW...........

[andy_k]

oh good, the old 'just because someone else is doing something wrong they can't tell you'

You've had advice, you've seen stuff written by a traffic plod, you've seen that people have been given fixed penalties for doing what you say is OK.

If (and I hope you are not) involved in an accident where tyre deflation can be seen as a contributory factor then it will get messy very quickly.

The tyre manufacturer gives these guidelines (which despite your repeated 'it's not law' crap) which very quickly become enforceable as law (see above) and if their is one single element of doubt the onus will be on you to prove that your use of tyres outside of these guidelines is actually safe - you won't be able to do that will you?

You can possibly end up with no insurance leaving you personally liable for all of the other parties involved costs.

Carry on though, if you think looking cool is worth the potential sh!t storm.

[Diamond Hell]

But he's driven past traffic police before now?  Surely that means it's all OK? 

[Shizzle]

well with way you lot are going on its like i have murdered some one and if its that dangerous and that illegal and there are so many problems and crashes and blow outs  why have i not been pulled maybe im just very very lucky ah 

[andy_k]

Why is it every discussion about stuff like this ends up with the same twittish replies like that one?

No, you haven't committed a murder (nobody said that you had did they?) and maybe you are just lucky to have not been pulled so far

Maybe you won't but you can be pretty sure that if the sh!t does hit the fan, you'll be out on your own as far as your insurance company is concerned.

Not a risk I'd be willing to take.

[Shizzle]

Yes but that's goes with speeding, driving a bit to fast round a corner letting the tread on your tyre be lower than guidelines but legal there are many factors for "sh!t to hit the fan" i could sit here all day and name them all,  just accept people will have stretched tyres. They are just as dangerous as a normal tyre on a normal wheel its how you look after your car if you don't then it will go wrong.The are worse things people do to there cars these days its just another thing for people to have a little cry about another thing to blame when something goes wrong any under inflated tyre will cause an accident. Stretched or not stretched tyres are as dangerous as most day to day things that go wrong with cars but for some reason the thousands of people not having accidents with stretch compared to all the people who are we are the dangerous ones on the road.

[andy_k]

wtf are you talking about?

You accept that you are using tyres outside of their tolerances yet argue that they are safer than normal tyres due tome accident figures you've made up?

You've had advice from all corners, now here's one more from an insurance company

'if you crash, the engineer see's stretched tyres. sends report to us = no insurance.

We have a duty as insurer to pay all third party claims but then we will come after you for the money.

The claim is 200k and you cant pay, we take you to court and the judge looks at your accounts and you pay for the rest of your life.'

Yes, I accept that people have stretched tyres and that they think they are cool by the same token, you must accept that other people see stretched tyres and think that only a complete bell end would do that to his or her car - it works both ways

[Shizzle]

i agree with accepting and not accepting them but that's also like making a fuss about some one having alloys you don't think suite there car tbh its just people butting wanted to be heard and start a pointless argument don't like them don't do it and leave us to do it in the way we do.