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Offline Geomets

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #40 on: 27 November 2013, 18:13 »
Reading the thread I was thinking about this: the mk7 GTI has dual injection. As I read it, it seems that in very low revs-idle and high revs-limiter and PI in between. If someone with the Knowledge verify that with the actual revs which the dual port system works, this could clarify the differences we see with our MPG in combination with our driving styles. Someone may drive with too low revs, so only the one set of injectors are working, and this may be bad (or good) for the consumption. And some thoughts with some of us who like the conspiracy theories: maybe (surely) VW silently accepted that carbon deposits on the intake valves are something that they should rectify. So they added an algorithm to the ECU (given the liberty with the twin port injection) with which when some parameters meet (low speed of intake air in conjunction to low torque output or with the knock sensors or...anything, you name it, for example) it ups the amount of injected fuel through the PI. So the MPG goes downways. Like a DPF system in Diesel engines, which when it goes into regeneration mode, the car becomes...dieseloholic.
On a more realistic note, I think twin port injection has something to do with the MPG. Or it just failed because it is a new technology for VW and this ruined MPG in some of us. A member of APR in an other site which I read in 2008 said that VW was working on the calibration of the twin port injection system at the time. BUT it were laboratory checking and not out in the real world. Only then they could have a real statistic sample of the reliability of the system. Simple it seems, but it's not, I'm certain on it.
Oh well, History will tell...

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #41 on: 27 November 2013, 18:25 »
As far as im aware the other major reason to having the port injection is to help prevent a serious problem with previous versions of the EA888, carbon deposits on the valves which is a problem with direct injection only systems as fuel is not passing the valves and washing the carbon deposits away.

The increase in injection efficiency is mostly due to manufactures not having to rely on one set of injectors trying to deal with low and high fuel demands as a given injector can only really be classed as optimal in a limited injection range.

This 8 injector engine has been in Audi's for some time I believe and various tuners are getting some great results.

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Offline Geomets

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #42 on: 27 November 2013, 18:30 »
That's what I wrote, didn't know about the Audi though. And???

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #43 on: 27 November 2013, 18:32 »
Maybe I didn't make myself clear. Sorry for my English...

Offline Ian.C

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #44 on: 27 November 2013, 18:37 »
Sorry my mistake....Im bad for not reading posts.....SORRY  :wink:

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #45 on: 27 November 2013, 18:42 »
No problem, I thought for a moment that I can't communicate with the fellow members and it felt really BAD. Sorry for my English by the way...

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #46 on: 27 November 2013, 21:13 »
My average MPG after 1100 miles is 26.9 LOL!

Back to the dealers I go by the looks of it!

What are you guys doing getting 40MPG? Turning the engine off and pushing it the rest of the way?

I've tried putting it in Eco mode and labouring the engine by letting it out the car in 5th at 30 ect and feathering the pedal and still getting 33 at best?

I don't get it.
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Offline pauliem

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #47 on: 27 November 2013, 22:59 »
As an experiment today, I drove in the most economical way I could possibly manage from Reading, Berkshire to Weybridge, Surrey.

Both the towns were extremely congested and the motorway was somewhat congested.  I could have got a bit higher than this if the urban sections were a bit clearer.

Distance:


Speed:


Time


Consumption


This was driving extremely carefully and for large bits of the journey I had the speed limiter on at 60mph.  I did have it up to 42mpg at one point in the journey.

Offline Mr Savage

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #48 on: 28 November 2013, 06:12 »
Manual or DSG Paul?
Current - MK7 Golf GTI - Tornado Red, 5 Door, DSG, Performance Pack, Dynamic Chasis Control, Panoramic Sunroof, Discover Navigation, Dynaudio.

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Offline DougL

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Re: Average MPG - Longterm - GTI
« Reply #49 on: 28 November 2013, 07:55 »
I did a 140 mile journey on Saturday, all on motorway and dual carriageway. My average speed was 67mph with bursts up to 90mph, the car was in sport mode and the mpg was 38.5. The car has done less than 1000 miles and is a manual non-pp.
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