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Offline molegti

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #10 on: 11 November 2013, 12:38 »
The difference in the insurance cost between my car as a standard 8v and after the ABF conversion was negligible.
 
Its going to work out the best value for money.

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #11 on: 11 November 2013, 13:05 »
i wasnt even taking insurance into consideration lol

Offline weazgti

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #12 on: 11 November 2013, 13:40 »
For what a head is gonna cost you could get an abf lump

Offline Waspy

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #13 on: 11 November 2013, 14:02 »
For what a head is gonna cost you could get an abf lump

And that was why I first considered the conversion! However actually doing it will be a pain in the balls. I have no garage, or drive for that matter :( I would need to take it back to Newcastle if I wanted it done (or pay through the nose for someone in leeds to do it) which means time off work etc. I would love it, just not sure it's feasible right now. Unless any of you know someone who will do the work inhumanly cheap  :laugh:

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #14 on: 11 November 2013, 15:41 »
If your already doing an engine conversion is it not best to just go whole hog and do a 20vt? An abf isn't that fast and will still leave you wanting more in a few short months. An abf just seems like a not needed stepping stone to making a faster car. If you can't do the work yourself for whatever reason then labour is the real cost. The cost of getting a P&P head with cam and a bottom end you might as well just spend the same on a more powerful conversion.

Offline matty1664

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #15 on: 11 November 2013, 17:01 »
2.0 2e bottom end conversion with p&p head plus cam - is the cheapest, easiest, most cost effective solution on an 8v

Noted! thanks alot  :smiley:

Offline Mcwill

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #16 on: 11 November 2013, 18:33 »
The difference in the insurance cost between my car as a standard 8v and after the ABF conversion was negligible.
 
Its going to work out the best value for money.



If you don't mind me asking, how much was the difference and who is your insurance with?

Offline Waspy

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #17 on: 11 November 2013, 18:59 »
Guys bare in mind I am only 19, 20 by the time this is all done. So when you say there is little difference, is that little difference for a 15NCB insurance angel?

And I see the point about going the whole hog and getting a 20vt but it seems a little overkill? I sit I'm my 8v and by no means think "this is a slow car". But yes labour will be my biggest cost (and will be what kills this whole idea) hence the ABF was a curveball. I am so torn on this.
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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #18 on: 11 November 2013, 20:05 »
Guys bare in mind I am only 19, 20 by the time this is all done. So when you say there is little difference, is that little difference for a 15NCB insurance angel?

And I see the point about going the whole hog and getting a 20vt but it seems a little overkill? I sit I'm my 8v and by no means think "this is a slow car". But yes labour will be my biggest cost (and will be what kills this whole idea) hence the ABF was a curveball. I am so torn on this.

I'm 19 and will be going for a 20vt in march, when I got a ball park figure last year on fully modified insurance it was £1800 but I was only entitled to third party cover. If you don't use an insurance company that specializes in modified cars then my quotes before were around £6000. Also with respect to the whole hog conversion it makes more sence to go all or nothing. If your reasonably happy but want that little bit more a head and cam will push the power up, the abf just pushes it that little bit higher past the 16v. I do not think the power gains from an abf are worth while unless you can do the work yourself.

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Re: 8V engine improvements.
« Reply #19 on: 11 November 2013, 20:16 »
How can you say it's not worthwhile?
Abf is in a different league to an 8v