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Offline DougL

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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #10 on: 10 October 2013, 12:41 »
The one thing that ruins the package is the sound enhancer. Take it out, or find a way to turn it off, and the Mk7 will be thoroughly more appealing than the Mk6.

That's interesting. There is a post in the VCDS threat that suggests that diagnostic equipment might turn it off. I suspect the noise might irritate me too.
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #11 on: 10 October 2013, 12:43 »
Nice write up!  Just so you know, I'm pretty sure if you go into 'Individual' in the mode settings, you can turn the engine to 'Normal' and I think this will reduce the sound you hear in the cabin when you accelerate.  Cause I agree it can be quite loud (but I like that tbh and if I don't want to hear it I turn the music up  :evil:)  So don't let that put you off the car, as you can turn it down (I think!)  :smiley:
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #12 on: 10 October 2013, 13:24 »
Nice write up!  Just so you know, I'm pretty sure if you go into 'Individual' in the mode settings, you can turn the engine to 'Normal' and I think this will reduce the sound you hear in the cabin when you accelerate.  Cause I agree it can be quite loud (but I like that tbh and if I don't want to hear it I turn the music up  :evil:)  So don't let that put you off the car, as you can turn it down (I think!)  :smiley:

Trouble is it dulls the throttle response to normal too when you turn "engine" to normal. VCDS may be the only way of separating sound actuator from pedal response to turn the actuator off.
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #13 on: 10 October 2013, 13:28 »
Nice write up!  Just so you know, I'm pretty sure if you go into 'Individual' in the mode settings, you can turn the engine to 'Normal' and I think this will reduce the sound you hear in the cabin when you accelerate.  Cause I agree it can be quite loud (but I like that tbh and if I don't want to hear it I turn the music up  :evil:)  So don't let that put you off the car, as you can turn it down (I think!)  :smiley:

Trouble is it dulls the throttle response to normal too when you turn "engine" to normal. VCDS may be the only way of separating sound actuator from pedal response to turn the actuator off.

That's a good point.
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #14 on: 10 October 2013, 14:57 »
I agree totally about the noise actuator, to me this was rather irritating when driving at low speeds however I'm sure VW have tried their best to provide the balance between less cabin noise yet a more sporty tone from the engine. Where is the sound actuator?  Perhaps we can just disconnect the cables from it? 

For the performance on the motorway, I suspect this has been limited to assist in providing better fuel economy.  I do a regular commute in my mk5 and often wonder why I bother with a GTI when most of the time I'm sitting with cruise control at 75mph just to get an average of 35mpg when other non sporty cars are whizzing past me getting better economy.

At the end of the day it sounds like the grumbles can be resolved through doing what you've done before;  Get it remapped and reconfigured in the VCDS maybe drop a supersprint exhaust on there for good measure and voila, the perfect hot hatch.


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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #15 on: 10 October 2013, 15:47 »
VW throttle response especially when the TSI was introduced to the Mk6 and Scirocco has never been a redeeming feature, for me just not linear enough, i've run a linear throttle map on my Ed35 and having gone back to stock yesterday you just notice these things when they are gone, my only gripe on the Mk7 throttle is you get that annoying click on the pedal when you want full throttle

issue with the older TSI and K03 cars was the turbo, with peak power being delivered to low down the rev range for fun through the gears action, the IHI/K03 v K04 debate was always a bit like the 8V v 16v debate on Mk2s as to power delivery when having fun versus day to day drivability

peak power isn't much higher up the rev range on the Mk7 but VW have masked this by upping the mid range on the torque which means you don't really need to rev the nuts off it

people will moan about lag on the Mk7 R in a similar way to the old K04 cars where you can get caught napping as car is not as forgiving if you are not in the optimum gear

for me an optimum tuned GTI will always be some chassis fettling and a Stage 1 remap, when you start doing more it ceases to be the car you bought and whilst more exciting isn't always more fun :)
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #16 on: 10 October 2013, 21:38 »
barring handling which i don't have an opinion about since i haven't driven mk7 (yet), there are three things i wouldn't swap my mk6 for an mk7.  One: headrests, Two: the DSG knob, Three: monza shadows.  These were the 3 things that drew me to the car in the first place - besides the obvious appeal of the three letters - and having seen how they've changed in the MK7 I must say i wouldn't swap the two cars, despite the mechanical advances.  Some may say these are not reasons to stick with a car but i'd disagree; especially the headrests, i don't know why, i've been in love with since i first saw them on the mk5.  I'd very much prefer to spend a few pounds, remap the car and get the extra torque/hp.   
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #17 on: 11 October 2013, 19:23 »
Yup, headrests were better in the mk6.
I can't think of anything else though.

The mk6 was a fine car, the mk7 is just that bit better in every respect - except headrests.
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #18 on: 11 October 2013, 19:54 »
Yup, headrests were better in the mk6.
I can't think of anything else though.

The mk6 was a fine car, the mk7 is just that bit better in every respect - except headrests.

rightly said -- mk6 headrests rock  :smiley:
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Re: Mk7 Vs Mk6
« Reply #19 on: 12 October 2013, 10:30 »
Yup, headrests were better in the mk6.
I can't think of anything else though.

The mk6 was a fine car, the mk7 is just that bit better in every respect - except headrests.

rightly said -- mk6 headrests rock  :smiley:

Agreed, headrests in the 6 were class!
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