GTI & GTD official MPG

[CraigW]

All I'm saying is that you are paying £25-£28k on a depreciating item which is not insignificant amount of money and your worried about the costs of fuel?

[Bill_the_Bear]

There is no point in worrying about mpg all the time as its just going to spoil your enjoyment of the car.

Couldn't you make the same argument about anything in that case?  Don't worry about comfort, don't worry about the price, don't worry about the practicality?  I guess some of us won't care about some things, but others will care about those things.

[matchboy]

The bottom line is if you're worried about mpg buy a GTD.  If not, buy a GTI and drive it like its stolen.  No point in having a car if you're always going to worry what the mpg is - so the argument of which petrol is irrelevant in terms of mpg.  Only time it comes into play is if there is an output increase using the 'better' petrol.  But then if you're that worried about that then either do a remap or buy a faster car!

[monkeyhanger]

All I'm saying is that you are paying £25-£28k on a depreciating item which is not insignificant amount of money and your worried about the costs of fuel?

I could buy a £15k car that retains 40% of it's value after 3 years and does 20mpg for the same monthly spend, but i'd rather be in a GTD.

[CraigW]

All I'm saying is that you are paying £25-£28k on a depreciating item which is not insignificant amount of money and your worried about the costs of fuel?

I could buy a £15k car that retains 40% of it's value after 3 years and does 20mpg for the same monthly spend, but i'd rather be in a GTD.

Yes and that's your choice so you have to live with whatever the costs of running the car are. There's no getting round it.

[Bill_the_Bear]

The bottom line is if you're worried about mpg buy a GTD.

I don't buy that argument.  If this is true then buy a Prius!

I want to drive a powerful car, with a good interior, practicality and that won't break the bank.  The GTI is advertised as such so there is no harm in expecting to get good fuel economy.  As Craig says its a £25-28k item we don't need to throw in large fuel costs as well, I'd rather keep them low.

[monkeyhanger]

I do admit there are extremes of concern for mpg which end up impractical.
You’d probably have more fun driving a GTD with a heavy right foot all the time and getting 40mpg for your troubles than nannying a GTI all the time to get 40mpg for your troubles.

[Bill_the_Bear]

Yes and that's your choice so you have to live with whatever the costs of running the car are. There's no getting round it.

Perhaps I'm getting confused.  I don't really understand what your saying here.  Are you saying its irrelevant what the mpg is we should just live with it?  I don't think that would wash with any other aspect of the car.  Its irrelevant what the torque is we should just live with it, its irrelevant what the reliability is we should just live with it, its irrelevant what the colour is we should just live with it?  Those are all key aspects of the car, and so is the mpg.

Why must the mpg be considered as not really part of the car, just something you have to deal with?

Or am I misunderstanding what your saying?  Apologies if I am.

[matchboy]

Each to their own I suppose!  Personally, I fully intend to use the car as it was intended - and not give a toss about consumption.  Gotta fill up at some point, I'd rather fill up one extra time per month and have had enjoyed my driving!

Also, you have to remember that the mpg you'll get is highly dependent on how you drive anyway - so it doesn't really matter what VW say you will get as those figures are not how you'll be driving in the real world!

[Bill_the_Bear]

Each to their own I suppose!  Personally, I fully intend to use the car as it was intended - and not give a toss about consumption.  Gotta fill up at some point, I'd rather fill up one extra time per month and have had enjoyed my driving!

Perhaps we're talking cross purposes.  I'm not going to drive any differently to how I do now.  I'm not talking about teasing every last mpg from it.  But just because of that doesn't mean I'd be happy to see 20 mpg.