Real world fuel consumption GTI vs GTD

[Gryzor]

not much I could say after that, but the point being that you don't buy a GTI if you're primary concern is fuel consumption!!

I'd also argue that you don't buy a GTD either if your primary concern is fuel consumption, because if fuel really is so important, what are you doing spending so much on a car in the first place?!  I know, I know, we all have different budgets and requirements and all that, but still...

[matchboy]

I'd also argue that you don't buy a GTD either if your primary concern is fuel consumption, because if fuel really is so important, what are you doing spending so much on a car in the first place?!  I know, I know, we all have different budgets and requirements and all that, but still...

True, but there's looking for fuel consumption and still having a cool car, or there's looking for fuel consumption and buying a prius or some other old dross! 

[Gryzor]

True, but there's looking for fuel consumption and still having a cool car, or there's looking for fuel consumption and buying a prius or some other old dross! 

So true, ongoing "feel it in your pocket" costs are often more of a concern than the cost of the car itself!

[Diggz]

All fair points. The way I justify spend on a car is I spend enough time in it so its worth it to be comfortable and have my mod cons, as long as the depreciation is half decent which isnt an issue with the Golf

Think GTDs going to get the nod but the spreadsheet will be getting some scrutiny few over the next few days

[monkeyhanger]

not much I could say after that, but the point being that you don't buy a GTI if you're primary concern is fuel consumption!!

I'd also argue that you don't buy a GTD either if your primary concern is fuel consumption, because if fuel really is so important, what are you doing spending so much on a car in the first place?!  I know, I know, we all have different budgets and requirements and all that, but still...

My dad's maiden run (350 miles @45mpg and driving it quite hard)) was better than a few 1.6TDI (105PS) owners got in the early days of their MK7s, and around the doors going to work the last few days he's been getting 55mpg. The 1.6TDI boys are having loads of DPF issues and piss poor economy - an even greater reason to get a GTD over the smaller engined Golfs.

[Movi]

real world i'd say 33 for gti and 52 for gtd driven normally. based on this and 20k a year its a difference of £1300 per annum.

similar to what i have seen moving from edition 30 (27mpg) to GTD (45mpg) over the last 2.5 years saving around £1700 pa

however my circumstances have now changed and my annual milage has dropped by 10k to 10k.
So I have cancelled my MK7 GTD and will wait for an R. 

[GolfTi]

Current long term average on the mk6 is 34.

I'm expecting at least +5mpg on the mk7.

Not that bothered really but I suppose every little helps.

[mjh_056]

not much I could say after that, but the point being that you don't buy a GTI if you're primary concern is fuel consumption!!

I'd also argue that you don't buy a GTD either if your primary concern is fuel consumption, because if fuel really is so important, what are you doing spending so much on a car in the first place?!  I know, I know, we all have different budgets and requirements and all that, but still...

GTD is the one in middle, great economy and really decent performance of likely 7 sec to 60 and all that torque and acceleration through gears that only those driving 2.0TDi 170BHP cars can really appreciate - We have an advantage by experience where as anyone choosing coming from pretty standard petrol or diesel vehicles really need to test drive the cars first to not eliminate the GTD out of hand as think they be going around like Miss Daisy due to the GTI comparisons. 

My GTD expectation
1. Very quick in it's own right
2. Great handling which does not comprise a comfortable ride
3. Again with the GTI suit, the interior being a great place to be.
4. Great looking in the GTI suit and them Nogaro !!
5. Minimum 50MPG economy to 60MPG + on a long run.

Understand the GTI has more performance but day to day driving conditions is quite an equaliser and the GTD will be holding it's own as get's about. - So to me it really does boil down to that red stripe and 3 letters that say GTI and how much value the iconic kudos these 2 things bring? Because it does, it has a huge play on heart.

So it is not really too much about performance or economy but more the stigma of not having a GTI that really is hard for people to get over.

Of course the GTI (PP) will seemingly have something over the standard GTI drivers with any head to head having the drivers sneakily looking at the calipers haha

Remember this is all subjective I respect everyone choices without question, I just think the stripe and GTI tag have more sway than the performance and economy issues do - to feel inferior is a high hurdle 

[mcmaddy]

not much I could say after that, but the point being that you don't buy a GTI if you're primary concern is fuel consumption!!

I'd also argue that you don't buy a GTD either if your primary concern is fuel consumption, because if fuel really is so important, what are you doing spending so much on a car in the first place?!  I know, I know, we all have different budgets and requirements and all that, but still...

GTD is the one in middle, great economy and really decent performance of likely 7 sec to 60 and all that torque and acceleration through gears that only those driving 2.0TDi 170BHP cars can really appreciate - We have an advantage by experience where as anyone choosing coming from pretty standard petrol or diesel vehicles really need to test drive the cars first to not eliminate the GTD out of hand as think they be going around like Miss Daisy due to the GTI comparisons. 

My GTD expectation
1. Very quick in it's own right
2. Great handling which does not comprise a comfortable ride
3. Again with the GTI suit, the interior being a great place to be.
4. Great looking in the GTI suit and them Nogaro !!
5. Minimum 50MPG economy to 60MPG + on a long run.

Understand the GTI has more performance but day to day driving conditions is quite an equaliser and the GTD will be holding it's own as get's about. - So to me it really does boil down to that red stripe and 3 letters that say GTI and how much value the iconic kudos these 2 things bring? Because it does, it has a huge play on heart.

So it is not really too much about performance or economy but more the stigma of not having a GTI that really is hard for people to get over.

Of course the GTI (PP) will seemingly have something over the standard GTI drivers with any head to head having the drivers sneakily looking at the calipers haha

Remember this is all subjective I respect everyone choices without question, I just think the stripe and GTI tag have more sway than the performance and economy issues do - to feel inferior is a high hurdle 

100% spot on couldn't agree more.

[ajmoir36]

Um something I worked out with my mk6: on less than 20k miles close to it mind.

Interesting (well to some anyway) that if fuel was the same price (which it hasnt been for the past three years):

GTD:
50000miles / 50mpg (approx) = 1000 gallons of fuel
1000 gallons * 4.55 litres = 4550 litres of fuel
4550 litres * £1.40 = £6370 worth of fuel 

If I had bought a GTI:
50000miles / 35mpg (approx) = 1428.5 gallons of fuel
1428.5 gallons * 4.55 litres = 6500 litres of fuel
6500 litres * £1.33 = £8645 worth of fuel


GTD:
50000miles / 60mpg (approx) = £5308

If I had bought a GTI:
50000miles / 40mpg (approx) = £7564

If I had bought a GTI:
50000miles / 30mpg (approx) = £10085

Potential Real World Mk6 figures, I wish I had a run in mk7 GTD to try and my normal trip to work.

73mpg by Techie_Ali, on Flickr