Performance Pack or Not? Have you?

[Gryzor]

First Chris Harris said it and now Neil Birkitt. Makes you wonder...

Glad I went with my instincts!  Like I said, I never drive my current car into and out of corners like a racer, or routinely floor it when setting off from traffic lights.  It's an extra that VW know will be very tempting for a decent proportion of the target audience, regardless of whether they really need it or not.  Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it works exactly as described, and we all buy our cars for different reasons and drive them accordingly!

[master_hayabusa]

First Chris Harris said it and now Neil Birkitt. Makes you wonder...

Glad I went with my instincts!  Like I said, I never drive my current car into and out of corners like a racer, or routinely floor it when setting off from traffic lights.  It's an extra that VW know will be very tempting for a decent proportion of the target audience, regardless of whether they really need it or not.  Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it works exactly as described, and we all buy our cars for different reasons and drive them accordingly!

In that case it's definitely not worth it for you, saving you a fair packet mate

[Gryzor]

In that case it's definitely not worth it for you, saving you a fair packet mate

Hehe, nah, just shifted some funds into the Discover Nav instead!

[master_hayabusa]

In that case it's definitely not worth it for you, saving you a fair packet mate

Hehe, nah, just shifted some funds into the Discover Nav instead!

Sod that I'm gonna use Android and google maps lol. I hope not having sat nav doesn't affect resale though!

[Bill_the_Bear]

Sod that I'm gonna use Android and google maps lol. I hope not having sat nav doesn't affect resale though!

I do that currently since SatNav wasn't an option in my car when I purchased it.  And even if it had been it probably would have been highly expensive for a unit with poor functionality compared to a a TomTom or an Android phone.

However, there are some problems (I'm on a Galaxy S2, newer phones may be better at this):

• You must have data signal to use otherwise it can't find the route, or more critically download the maps (sometimes I have a route but the map is extreme low quality or not there at all).  Helps if you use wifi to download and find the route before leaving, but a few occasions it has left me high and dry when I'm out in the styx and can't access the navigation at all.
• Data use = potentially expensive to use compared to free TomTom or car unit
• Reliability is low, phone battery can die, phone calls typically interrupt and sometimes cancel the navigation, phone can't multi-task requiring downloading maps and route again
• Phone screen is very small compared to 8" GTI screen
• Speed camera detection isn't great, requires downloading seperate apps and remembering to update and enable them before each journey
• Lacks features like "find nearest filling station" or "avoid motorways" or they require cancelling and re enabling a new navigation.
• Basically all of the above are summed up by "Its not a dedicated nav unit so its imperfect"

On the plus side:

• Doesn't cost a grand
• Apps frequently and easily updated so new functionality can be gained (but rare in my experience)

[Gryzor]

Sod that I'm gonna use Android and google maps lol. I hope not having sat nav doesn't affect resale though!

It's just one of those things that completes the gadgets in the car really - I don't use Sat Nav much anyway, and have a separate Tom Tom as well as my iPhone.  I just can't be doing with cables dangling and having mounts for things stuck on the dash or window.  Just extra crap to mess with and setup before you drive off!

[Bill_the_Bear]

It's just one of those things that completes the gadgets in the car really - I don't use Sat Nav much anyway, and have a separate Tom Tom as well as my iPhone.  I just can't be doing with cables dangling and having mounts for things stuck on the dash or window.  Just extra crap to mess with and setup before you drive off!

This.  Well, for me it is this.

Also, the Nav just completes the dash for me.  Cars with inbuilt nav seem so much cooler and more modern than without.  For me it is the one thing that separates cars into 20th and 21st century...

But I'm weird...

[Gryzor]

This.  Well, for me it is this.

Also, the Nav just completes the dash for me.  Cars with inbuilt nav seem so much cooler and more modern than without.  For me it is the one thing that separates cars into 20th and 21st century...

But I'm weird...

Yeah it's just one of those things that for me is nice to have integrated, even though I didn't consider it at first.  Not sure I could justify going pro though, but it sure does look nice with that 8" screen!

[p3asa]

However, there are some problems (I'm on a Galaxy S2, newer phones may be better at this):

Add to that, you are technically using your phone if you have to punch in a route while on the go so if caught are liable to 3 penalty points and a fine!!

Sat Nav is expensive especially if you don't use it enough but its an option that may well swing a potential sale in the future. I don't think I could go back to trailing wires / dashmounts etc.

[CraigW]

This.  Well, for me it is this.

Also, the Nav just completes the dash for me.  Cars with inbuilt nav seem so much cooler and more modern than without.  For me it is the one thing that separates cars into 20th and 21st century...

But I'm weird...

Yeah it's just one of those things that for me is nice to have integrated, even though I didn't consider it at first.  Not sure I could justify going pro though, but it sure does look nice with that 8" screen!

Completely agree. I've never had inbuilt sat nav before and it's one thing I really wanted with this car. Think the 8" inch screen looks great in the dash. I'm in two minds as to whether I should have specced Dynaudio with it