Wont Start....HELP PLEASE!

[analogue_rogue]

To be fair to everyone.. I think we need a list of current symptoms..

(I was just reading back and they seem to change throughout the posts)

Do you have spark on cranking at the dizzy?
at the plugs?

Do you have fuel flow on priming?

you said you were getting a second hand dizzy then a new one? which was it?

does the car have an immobiliser (you mention a toad, that's a thatcham alarm which has at least two separate immobiliser circuits.. usually starter and spark)

what have you changed so far?


With this information we can get up to date and start fresh rather than bickering over it.

[dixie180]

That spark mate is only one thing. Ignition switch wouldnt causethat. The hall effect has tone hort circuit to cause that spark. Get a secondhand dizzy to confirm. What engine code itnit inmay have a spare one i can lend you to test?

So this quote wasn't yours then?
For the price he paid for the dizzy he could have replaced the 167 and 30 relay and probably solved the problem.These engines are bullet proofed and very rarely have Distributor problems.Buying secondhand dizzy's is a waste of time as they could be carrying problems.
I don't profess to be a VW mechanic but as any Mk3 Golf owner will tell you these problems are VERY VERY COMMON and can be fixed without splashing out big money on unwanted parts.Have a read through some of the other threads on here relating to similar problems and you will perhaps understand where i'm coming from.
Plus for your information my problems have been resolved by a guy who runs a VW Engine building business and has done for 30 years so i know his knowledge is spot on,unlike some people.

[xionsolaris]

this is all pointless now there's no point explaining it anymore my advice is take it to a local garage to get it diagnosed and fix the problem instead of having a dead car for ages your advice on hall sensor was  not true (The ECU will trigger the coil even if the distributor hall sender is unplugged, an ADY or AGG will run almost as well as normal up to 5K rpm with the hall sender unplugged, all it does is to tell the ECU where number one piston is so as it may initiate sequential rather than full group injection. ) I have somewhat agreed with you about the crank sensor would create a spark problem this thread is going up and down really its hard to keep track of what's going you was certain about the distributor hall sensor and he bought one (hall sender comes only on dizzys mate. best thing is to go to a scrappy get one and if it fixes it start saving for a new one) maf sensor does have something to do with ignition not as much as affecting sparking issues but the ecu needs to know how much fuel to parts air and then can adjust the ignition timing to match the mixture more air more fuel faster the engine and the ecu can advance and retard ignition timing for the fuel load I just think he should take it to a garage this cant be a diy with that you can message over the net someone needs to look at it in person so theres no point at proving whos better than each other this guys got a dead car at the moment so best advice is take it to a garage

[analogue_rogue]

Get a secondhand dizzy to confirm. What engine code itnit inmay have a spare one i can lend you to test?

I don't profess to be a VW mechanic but as any Mk3 Golf owner will tell you these problems are VERY VERY COMMON and can be fixed without splashing out big money on unwanted parts.Have a read through some of the other threads on here relating to similar problems and you will perhaps understand where i'm coming from.
Plus for your information my problems have been resolved by a guy who runs a VW Engine building business and has done for 30 years so i know his knowledge is spot on,unlike some people.

Yes my quote.. "test it with a spare first to discount it"

two points here... HIS knowledge not yours.. again the home enthusiast thinks he knows what it is because ALL symptoms can be caused by the same thing every time... go get some experience then come back fella.

Or get the guy that fixes your car for you because you clearly lack the knowledge! hahaha!!!! 

[analogue_rogue]

(The ECU will trigger the coil even if the distributor hall sender is unplugged, an ADY or AGG will run almost as well as normal up to 5K rpm with the hall sender unplugged, all it does is to tell the ECU where number one piston is so as it may initiate sequential rather than full group injection. )

I think your theory of hall senders is a little off.  the cam shaft sensor is used in later cars to replace it and you are right in saying it will run without hall sender it but it wont START without it.



BTW heres a little gem for you....

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=210366.10

[analogue_rogue]

To be fair to everyone.. I think we need a list of current symptoms..

(I was just reading back and they seem to change throughout the posts)

Do you have spark on cranking at the dizzy?
at the plugs?

Do you have fuel flow on priming?

you said you were getting a second hand dizzy then a new one? which was it?

does the car have an immobiliser (you mention a toad, that's a thatcham alarm which has at least two separate immobiliser circuits.. usually starter and spark)

what have you changed so far?


With this information we can get up to date and start fresh rather than bickering over it.

now please.. can we just try and help this guy rather than measuring our d***ks

[dixie180]

Like i said ALL Mk3 Golfs seem to develop the SAME problems at some time or other.It's not just me saying so it's COMMON KNOWLEDGE of the Mk3 Golf,read the other threads on the same issues.I want to see the guy get his Golf back on the road quickly and inexpensively,not waste his hard earned on useless parts.Don't you???
Every car built has common issues and you being a mechanic should know this,the Mk3 Golf is no different bud.

[analogue_rogue]

http://www.golfgtiforum.co.uk/index.php?topic=210366.10

I took your advice... read this mate...

[dixie180]

Yep read it m8.But the op has already said he has had the engine running,surely if it was the Hall Sender it wouldn't start at all.He also said he ran a scan on the engine but didn't say if he used a proper VAGCOM or not.Wouldn't you suggest running a VAGCOM diagnostics first to see what faults it throws up.

[analogue_rogue]

To be fair any fault code would
Help now from any reader lol


I think we need a current list of accurate symptoms....