Make me ripped.

[Ninja]

Can't believe you have someone in here endorsing gear! Don't bother with gear unless you want your endocrine system fooked up. Do you wanna have to take Viagra everytime you want a hard on? And have shrunken balls? 

Too many people are lazy and don't wanna put the time and work in. Or wait to allow the body to develop to its potential.

Genetics plays a big part too. Don't expect to be muscular if you haven't got the body type.

I've got the perfect frame pal. Broad shoulders. Naturally slim... When I don't eat sh!te. 6ft. Long legs/torso.

So I know with effort I could look like Ryan Reynolds. The sexy man that he is  lol

Problem is time/money

[Godzilla]

Can't believe you have someone in here endorsing gear! Don't bother with gear unless you want your endocrine system fooked up. Do you wanna have to take Viagra everytime you want a hard on? And have shrunken balls? 

Too many people are lazy and don't wanna put the time and work in. Or wait to allow the body to develop to its potential.

Genetics plays a big part too. Don't expect to be muscular if you haven't got the body type.

Endorsing gear, well that is interesting! I would not advise anyone to use gear, I only advise those who are on it on how to use with care to minimise side effects and recovery. On our forum we get many newbies who just want to jump on gear with no knowledge, really is shocking. As for buggering up your endo' system, errrr, PCT will resume matters within 21-25 days unless you are not in the know like I was in my 20's and did no PCT thus shut myself down and now on TRT dose for the rest of my days.

Genetics does play a huge role I must say.  Diet is the most important thing, as we always say.....abs are made in the kitchen and not the gym.

[Nino]

Tired the 21's last night all I'm saying is oooouuuuccccchhhhhh 

[Kerrse]

Love it Chuff 


Kerrse......How do you know all the guys and girls at your gym are natural mate?  Unless it is a small gym or a gym that is aimed at keep fit rather than bodybuilding  then that is understood, anything to do with Bodybuilding these days there will be Steroids involved. The gym I go to, well the majority are honest and will say that they are on this or that, the occasional guy will say he is natural when he is not, I don't understand these guys, why lie if they are on something?  Very common ways of telling!!  The person starts to lift heavier weight in a short period of time, the person will gain body mass a lot faster, mild acne on the upper back, slight water retention around the jaw line.....Plus any girl in the gym no matter how old, fat, ugly will be under threat from the user as you want to sh@g everything!.....Some of the girls I have been with over the years, makes me feel ill just thinking about it......But my Test levels were high and I would go with whoever/wherever/whatever was easy 

It is a bodybuilding & strong man gym, yes it a fairly small gym http://www.bodybionicgym.co.uk/ but it's not tiny. Everyone pretty much knows everyone, the owner competes in natural bodybuilding comps, on the strong man side they have people competing as well.

As you said it's very easy to spot people using gear & they soon disapeer from the gym, never to been seen there again. I have been training there on & off since it opened and there isn't many of the original faces still around 

[tshirt2k]

Ninja....If you want results instantly then go on Winstrol @ 50mg ED, Clens at 50mg ED and Proviron @ 25mg ED.....Run this for 4 weeks.....You will loose around 2 stone and your abs will come out a treat!!

Sounds like endorsement to me. Did he ask " What can I inject I to my arse or swallow to get me ripped? "

Also if you wouldn't have taken the gear in the first place you wouldn't have to inject test into yourself on a regular basis.

Once someone starts on gear it's very hard to stop because your training/results and feeling you get whilst on them far outweigh what you feel like when your off them.

Too many people just want a course to get big then continue for on extra courses for years after.

If people want to take em, it's their choice but I personally never needed them. Even though I've been accused if being on them many times.   

[boneybradley]

I'm looking at going onto roids as my endocrine system is a lot fooked!!! If the dose is high enough by summer i could be ripped 

(I've lost 8kg in 6 months! maybe I should change my name to superboneybradley!)

[Godzilla]

Ninja....If you want results instantly then go on Winstrol @ 50mg ED, Clens at 50mg ED and Proviron @ 25mg ED.....Run this for 4 weeks.....You will loose around 2 stone and your abs will come out a treat!!

Sounds like endorsement to me. Did he ask " What can I inject I to my arse to get me ripped? "

Also if you wouldn't have taken the gear in the first place you wouldn't have to inject test into yourself on a regular basis.

Once someone starts on gear it's very hard to stop because your training/results and feeling you get whilst on them far outweigh what you feel like when your off them.

Too many people just want a course to get big then continue for on extra courses for year after.

If people want to take em, it's their choice but I personally never needed them. Even though I've been accused if being on them many times. 

Sorry I must admit that came across wrong, I should have put a 'lol' or something at the end of that about using Winstrol etc.

Only reason I am on Test for the rest of my life is I never did any PCT, never really knew about it back in the early 90's when I first started. Always wonder how Arnie carried on in the 70's as they never had PCT then, infact there were only 3 different types of steroids around.....Arnie was a huge fan of Dianabol though and admits it now.  The NHS does help me to an extent, they provide me with 'Testo-Gel' which raises my levels a tad, but I self medicate with Enanthate at 250mg per week, this keeps my levels in the 'normal' range for my age, plus a load of other benefits, my Dr is fine with this as long as I get my bloods done every 3 months to check everything is good.  Interesting that in the States they have started taking bloods from guys going in to the Dr's saying they feel low, irritable, low sex drive, poor erection quality, anxiety etc etc.....Normally the Dr would put them on an Anti-d or an anti anxiety med' but studies are showing though that some of these Males are low in Test, so they are prescribed Test only for these guys to feel a huge difference in 2-4 weeks. Makes me wonder how many guys in the UK are like this, yet as soon as you mention the word 'Testosterone' to a Dr he or she will look at you with disgust, yet if a female needs HRT they don't think twice about putting her on it!?!?!

[tshirt2k]

Most people don't use PCT. a guy I used to train with did a course of tren. Sweated buckets and full of spots. Then stopped. Didn't like how much strength he'd lost so started on another course in no time. After that course he must have crashed. He also tore a muscle during that time and he couldn't lift 60kg on the bench. With all that going on he was in a state if depression. Next thing I know he's different again. Back on the gear. He didn't really change much either.

I did some research for him and realised he hadn't done a PCT. His supplier didn't give him any advice on PCT, liver protection etc.

Terrible business this self medication of gear because people can't put the effort in. And they are getting younger too.

[Godzilla]

Most people don't use PCT. a guy I used to train with did a course of tren. Sweated buckets and full of spots. Then stopped. Didn't like how much strength he'd lost so started on another course in no time. After that course he must have crashed. He also tore a muscle during that time and he couldn't lift 60kg on the bench. With all that going on he was in a state if depression. Next thing I know he's different again. Back on the gear. He didn't really change much either.

I did some research for him and realised he hadn't done a PCT. His supplier didn't give him any advice on PCT, liver protection etc.

Terrible business this self medication of gear because people can't put the effort in. And they are getting younger too.

I cant touch Tren', used it once. Made me very anxious, night sweats, libido trouble, aggressive.....Horrible drug. Some of the guys on our forum do very well off it with not one side effect. PCT is essential on any highly Anabolic steroid, androgenic, well sometimes you can get away with it.

I have to self medicate now.....If I don't I become anxious, irritable, feel low, tired etc......Typical signs of Low Test levels. This was from 'abuse' in the 90's.....There is 'using' and 'abusing'  Anything if taken with care and in moderation is ok. In fact Dianabol at 5mg per day used over 12 months showed great improvements in the elderly with osteoporosis......That is 5mg per day, most Bodybuilders will do 40-50mg per day, I was doing 80mg per day along with others back in the day and this was being run for 12 weeks then stop!  Once stopped I felt horrific as was not on any PCT so until my own Test levels kicked back in I was basically a woman!  Trouble is my body could only take so much before permant shut down to which I was found to have in 2008.  Live and learn and now I help others on our forum to as best as I can.  Many years of reading and trial and error. We had a lad the other week join, he put down what he was eating and how he trained, all seemed good. He wanted to know about starting a course, I replied 'How old are you'  I got back '14'  It is getting crazy now, we have a few 16 year olds on there, as much as you tell them not to touch gear and what the long term effects will be they always seem to know best and will come back in a few weeks saying 'I am now on this and that and my weight has gone up'  There is no helping some people 

[Pacman_GTI]

I'd recommend Men's Health Build A Cover Model Body. It's £9.99 and you can buy it in supermarkets or through their iPad app. It covers both nutrition and training - it's very user friendly and is aimed at complete novices. I'd never successfully weight trained before - I'd always been quite fit through playing football and running but never been able to put on any muscle - but I've seen results from following this guide since new year.