My tyre fitter refused to fit

[JC]

nowt wrong their, first place were been nobs

you opinion,

as it was his, he wasnt happy, so refused the work.

he would have been a nob if he charged, or removed the tyre.

 

[scarr89]

What size tyre is that on what width rim?

I have a 225 on a 10" alloy (rear mk4 alloys), having a 225 is the only tyre that will make my car legal run.

Why not just fit tyres that are the right width?  More grip.

if hes having to fit streched tyres im assuming hes so low that the car wownt handle good anyway so grip doesent matter.


but +1, dont see the point in lowering a car for anything other than getting good handling, and just getting the lowest centre of gravity you can does not equal the best handling.  i have had my car at lots of heights ranging from -30mm to -145mm. and can safely say -50 to -60 was about the best handling.

I am only about ~40mm lower, still have plenty of arch clearance, and since fitting stretched tyres have noticed no difference in handling.

Also, would love to hear your opinon on air then 

[Screech16v]

What size tyre is that on what width rim?

I have a 225 on a 10" alloy (rear mk4 alloys), having a 225 is the only tyre that will make my car legal run.

Why not just fit tyres that are the right width?  More grip.

if hes having to fit streched tyres im assuming hes so low that the car wownt handle good anyway so grip doesent matter.


but +1, dont see the point in lowering a car for anything other than getting good handling, and just getting the lowest centre of gravity you can does not equal the best handling.  i have had my car at lots of heights ranging from -30mm to -145mm. and can safely say -50 to -60 was about the best handling.

I am only about ~40mm lower, still have plenty of arch clearance, and since fitting stretched tyres have noticed no difference in handling.

Also, would love to hear your opinon on air then 

Its a 9j ET15 rim with 195 40   
When you say legal to run do you mean tread under the arch ?

[scarr89]

^^

Yes yes, tread under arch.

[Diamond Hell]

Some tyres have the maximum wheel width stamped on it, e.g. 'do not fit on 8.5J wheel'

That's what my Falken's say anyway

This.

Interesting article here:

http://www.torquecars.com/styling/stretched-tyres.php

Oh look - another tyre-fitter being a 'kn0b'.

nowt wrong their, first place were been nobs

And there is the real 'nob' in this situation. By the way, it's THERE not THEIR in that situation, numbnuts.

Here's a quote from VOSA:

There is a requirement under the Road Vehicles (Construction and Use) regulations 1986 as follows:-
Ref: regulation 100.

F: Avoidance of Danger100.: Maintenance and use of vehicle so as not to be a danger, etc

In summary, a vehicle and all its parts and accessories shall at all times be in such a condition that no danger is caused or is likely to be caused to any person in or on the vehicle or trailer on a road.

In establishing if a defect is likely to be, or cause a danger in this particular area then there is a publication which states the industry standard.

The "ETRTO Standards Manual" (The European Tyre and Rim Technical Organisation) a manual of which most of the worlds tyre manufacturers are members (including Toyo) set out the technical tolerance for both tyres and rims for all rims fitted with pneumatic tyres.

The manual states, the suitable rim sizes, for particular tyre sizes for all vehicles including passenger cars.

Sooooooooo, if anyone wants to trawl the thread I found it on then go ahead:

https://www.driftworks.com/forum/other-chat/126960-tyre-stretch-12-points-sh!t.html

Enjoy.

And maybe re-consider running shyte looking tyres.

[murraymint]

Thing is i cant figure out screech is. When I had a 1.6 I had no power so I had it lowered and a slight stretch on wider wheels, but now I have a valver I have it at standard height with the right size tyres so I can enjoy the car (well when it's not broke lol). So my question to you is, why go to all the trouble of doing a 1.8t conversion, and then the lower your car so it's handles like kack, and fit tyres with stretch, so that you can't push it without worrying about them? Don't get me wrong I love the way your car looks now, just don't get the whole idea in general, maybe I'm getting old in my ripe age of 21 

Jus saying

[Bellend]

Gotta admit, think it's all a bit crap. Just get less wide wheels or customize something else safely for safer fitted tyres.

Think about when you curb them.

[Screech16v]

Thing is i cant figure out screech is. When I had a 1.6 I had no power so I had it lowered and a slight stretch on wider wheels, but now I have a valver I have it at standard height with the right size tyres so I can enjoy the car (well when it's not broke lol). So my question to you is, why go to all the trouble of doing a 1.8t conversion, and then the lower your car so it's handles like kack, and fit tyres with stretch, so that you can't push it without worrying about them? Don't get me wrong I love the way your car looks now, just don't get the whole idea in general, maybe I'm getting old in my ripe age of 21 

Jus saying

Mate Ive had this car for about 3 years now hopefully ill keep it for another three, in that time ive run many different suspension at different heights ,driven the nuts off it,driven it conservatively,had many different wheels ,it just at a stage where it all kind of clashes  and the engine doesn't suit the handling at the moment but I get bored quickly and it will evolve again with better suspension and normal tyres,ps I wont be worried about the tyres coming off after a bit of testing ,so to sum it up its just kind of happened as I didn't plan it this way, this phase will pass like they all do lol,and will probably focus on getting it to handle better in the near future,i have thought about going back to stock height but they do look rather silly,then I will mess it all up again with a power hike  it will work one day im sure.

[murraymint]

I do agree with you on the looking sh!tty a normal ride height  , but I hardly look at mine atm so don't bother me, I get init drive to work, drive home that's about it lol. Fair play with the plans with your car, and I must admit if I had the chance to buy those modern lines, I would of too  . What I'd do is, sort the the handling out, do a bit of arch work and fit wider tyres 

[apollo996]

It just looks rubbish and why compromise on safety?  Maybe I'm getting old but why set suspension so stupidly low you need to do this sort of thing. Car won't handle or ride.  Up the suspension and get proper sized tyres fitted to the rims.  With the rim sticking out of the side of the tyre like that it looks poo.