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Offline Paul86S2

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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #50 on: 29 September 2012, 18:38 »
I heard having lightened fly wheel has its downside too like it stalls a lot and does not increase any horse

power?  Its good for quick accel then dies off pretty quickly??

I've had mine on for about 3 years or more and never stalled the car once. Why would you think a lightened flywheel would increase horsepower? It feels like the engine is more powerful because it will rev up quicker because the rotating mass is lighter. I cant see how the effect could die off quickly it doesn't get heavier as the engine speeds up!
If you have a limited budget I would spend the money on petrol and leave the flywheel alone.

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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #51 on: 29 September 2012, 19:05 »
Like I said, I am a novice at this.  I found this as an example on the net. 

Harry and Larry are twins and two months ago they turned 18. Their sugar daddy (ed: name removed under court order) bought them identical cars for their birthday and gave them some spending money. Harry spent the money on 3 midget hookers while Larry installed a lightweight flywheel in his car. Their cars are identical except Harry has a heavier flywheel and Larry has a lighter flywheel.

To show off their sugar daddy rides, the boys decided to cruise George Street on a Friday night. On their way they encountered lots of traffic. Larry discovered that his car now accelerates faster. Each time he steps on the gas the revs respond quicker but when he changes gears he noticed that his revs drop off faster as well. He had to adjust his driving style to shift quicker. He also noticed that he was using the accelerator more frequently to compensate for his fluctuating speed. This did not please him since he couldn’t cruise in a relaxed style like Harry.

Halfway through George Street, to his surprise, Larry stalled his car trying to take off from a set of lights… on several occasions. Quite an embarrassing situation and he attributed this to the flywheel since Harry had no such issues with his factory spec flywheel.

When the boys passed The Rocks, they came across some clear road. Larry looked over to his brother who nodded in agreement. They, like many of their peers, live their life a quarter mile at a time. A furious drag race commenced. Larry noticed that he could shift earlier through the gears. It was like his car felt lighter to his engine and his instincts proved right. His lighter flywheel effectively lightened his car.

Unfortunately for Larry, he missed a gear and his revs dropped quickly which allowed Harry to catch up. Side by side the boys raced while the world warped around them. A quarter of a mile seemed to last minutes. Larry was amazed to discover that his flywheel didn’t actually give him more horsepower like the guy that sold it to him promised.

All of a sudden, the boys saw a defect station up ahead. They both geared down to assist their brakes with engine braking. Larry’s revs shot up very quickly to match his wheel speed and didn’t slow him down as much as what Harry’s car did. The lighter flywheel just didn’t offer enough resistance to change in speed. Seeing that he could not slow down in time, he made a rash decision and started to drift his way into a side street before the defect station.

Very quickly, Larry discovered that the lighter weight of the flywheel hindered his clutch dumping. He had to use higher revs and it was harder for him to break traction which he suspected was related to a lack of weight behind his flywheel. Like a pro, Harry easily overtook his brother while drifting on the outside lane.

Dirty with his inability to drift donuts to get chicks numbers, Larry dropped the hammer and went all street racer style on his brother. With a few tight back street corners between the brothers, Larry made up the difference in no time and was grinning into the disappearing reflection of his brother’s car in the rear view mirror. He realised that the flywheel he had installed was well suited to high rev driving and accelerating out of corners as quickly as possible.

So in summary:

City driving

acceleration has improved with a lighter flywheel
the engine has to rotate less mass so it works more efficiently
you will have to adapt a new driving style to avoid stalling
gear changes are more frequent and need to be executed faster
it requires more frequent adjustments to maintain cruising speed and hence burns more fuel
Drag

acceleration, as above, is quick with a lighter flywheel
you run through the gears too quickly, spending precious time off the accelerator
when changing gears, you lose more revs
a lighter flywheel does not add horsepower
too light a flywheel in a heavy car will struggle to get it off the line quickly
Drift

the lighter the flywheel the more revs you need to break traction
the fluctuations of a light flywheel require more frequent adjustments upsetting the balance of the car
Race

a lighter flywheel is an all round improvement
quicker acceleration
lower effective car weight
precise rev control



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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #52 on: 29 September 2012, 19:08 »
Or the money you could save on flywheel - labour - maybe a clutch... you can get a nice interior or some decent suspension which by the sounds of your posts you may appreciate more, as do many of us.

Also a lightened flywheel causes less engine braking

End of the day its a valver - the flywheel will help but its not enough on its own and its mega ££ to get good figures out off
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Offline Foreveryoungaus16v

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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #53 on: 29 September 2012, 19:11 »
Yeah very true.  I have good full leather interior on mine and good coilovers etc.  But ur right what u say

mate :cool:

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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #54 on: 29 September 2012, 19:14 »
Thinking of getting the us spec rear spoiler with breaklight but not sure whether to pay over £50 second hand  :undecided:

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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #55 on: 29 September 2012, 19:16 »
What about spashing some moolah at some wheels? or some good rubber if your happy with your current wheels?
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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #56 on: 29 September 2012, 19:19 »
What u mean good rubber mate??  Wat u think of the reat spoiler with breal light?

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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #57 on: 29 September 2012, 19:20 »
Have lush 17 inch Dotz alloys on atm :smiley:

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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #58 on: 29 September 2012, 19:28 »
rubber = tyre

dots = sh!te  :grin: (just my opinion though)

Get some lovely 16's tucked under them arches  :cool:
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Re: LIGHTENED FLY WHEEL???
« Reply #59 on: 29 September 2012, 19:34 »
I like them, they are like these: http://www.dotz-wheels.co.uk/competitions/win-custom-designed-dotz-alloys/entries/117

Not a massive fan of the smaller 16's :sad:

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