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Offline danny_p

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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #10 on: 24 September 2012, 23:34 »
some of my engines have run really high meth percentages.

tho mixing alcohol with petrol is not top favoret for me, problem being your alcohol needs to be completly dry to mix with petrol and moisture in it and it won't mix.  i prefer to use 2 fuel rails 1 with neat petrol and the other neat meth and use the ECU to control the percentage of whats injected.

the carrot for useing meth are the following.

its equivalent ron rateing is much higher than pump petrol  its around  110   :smiley:
methanol mops up heat , the injected quantity allon with laten heat of vaporisation  drops intake charge temps very nicely on boosted cars can be a pita on NA cars in cold weather tho.
you need twice as much but its less than half the price.
even on a std compression engine you can see good power gains even on NA,  seen 15% gains on stock compression NA 16vs,   with turbo cars it allows  higer compression ratios, more boost, more spark  and reduces issues of heat soack  espectaly in drag raceing situations.

favoret mix todate is  49 % methanol  48% nitromethane 3% propolyene     (  that'll give you a big power NA valver that can scare the 20vt lot )
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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #11 on: 24 September 2012, 23:40 »
think a mates evo runs methanol not to sure though  :smiley:
« Last Edit: 25 September 2012, 13:17 by barrym381 »

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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #12 on: 25 September 2012, 19:00 »
some of my engines have run really high meth percentages.

tho mixing alcohol with petrol is not top favoret for me, problem being your alcohol needs to be completly dry to mix with petrol and moisture in it and it won't mix.  i prefer to use 2 fuel rails 1 with neat petrol and the other neat meth and use the ECU to control the percentage of whats injected.

the carrot for useing meth are the following.

its equivalent ron rateing is much higher than pump petrol  its around  110   :smiley:
methanol mops up heat , the injected quantity allon with laten heat of vaporisation  drops intake charge temps very nicely on boosted cars can be a pita on NA cars in cold weather tho.
you need twice as much but its less than half the price.
even on a std compression engine you can see good power gains even on NA,  seen 15% gains on stock compression NA 16vs,   with turbo cars it allows  higer compression ratios, more boost, more spark  and reduces issues of heat soack  espectaly in drag raceing situations.

favoret mix todate is  49 % methanol  48% nitromethane 3% propolyene     (  that'll give you a big power NA valver that can scare the 20vt lot )

sounds like this guy knows his sh!t, f**k google, thats your answer right there  :laugh:

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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #13 on: 25 September 2012, 23:11 »
some of my engines have run really high meth percentages.

tho mixing alcohol with petrol is not top favoret for me, problem being your alcohol needs to be completly dry to mix with petrol and moisture in it and it won't mix.  i prefer to use 2 fuel rails 1 with neat petrol and the other neat meth and use the ECU to control the percentage of whats injected.

the carrot for useing meth are the following.

its equivalent ron rateing is much higher than pump petrol  its around  110   :smiley:
methanol mops up heat , the injected quantity allon with laten heat of vaporisation  drops intake charge temps very nicely on boosted cars can be a pita on NA cars in cold weather tho.
you need twice as much but its less than half the price.
even on a std compression engine you can see good power gains even on NA,  seen 15% gains on stock compression NA 16vs,   with turbo cars it allows  higer compression ratios, more boost, more spark  and reduces issues of heat soack  espectaly in drag raceing situations.

favoret mix todate is  49 % methanol  48% nitromethane 3% propolyene     (  that'll give you a big power NA valver that can scare the 20vt lot )

So where can I buy this gear. Any links? Also will my ecu regulate the mixture, or will I need yet another custom map?
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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #14 on: 25 September 2012, 23:26 »
some of my engines have run really high meth percentages.

tho mixing alcohol with petrol is not top favoret for me, problem being your alcohol needs to be completly dry to mix with petrol and moisture in it and it won't mix.  i prefer to use 2 fuel rails 1 with neat petrol and the other neat meth and use the ECU to control the percentage of whats injected.

the carrot for useing meth are the following.

its equivalent ron rateing is much higher than pump petrol  its around  110   :smiley:
methanol mops up heat , the injected quantity allon with laten heat of vaporisation  drops intake charge temps very nicely on boosted cars can be a pita on NA cars in cold weather tho.
you need twice as much but its less than half the price.
even on a std compression engine you can see good power gains even on NA,  seen 15% gains on stock compression NA 16vs,   with turbo cars it allows  higer compression ratios, more boost, more spark  and reduces issues of heat soack  espectaly in drag raceing situations.

favoret mix todate is  49 % methanol  48% nitromethane 3% propolyene     (  that'll give you a big power NA valver that can scare the 20vt lot )

So where can I buy this gear. Any links? Also will my ecu regulate the mixture, or will I need yet another custom map?

Based on your response I really don't think you should be trusted with such information...


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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #15 on: 25 September 2012, 23:27 »
some of my engines have run really high meth percentages.

tho mixing alcohol with petrol is not top favoret for me, problem being your alcohol needs to be completly dry to mix with petrol and moisture in it and it won't mix.  i prefer to use 2 fuel rails 1 with neat petrol and the other neat meth and use the ECU to control the percentage of whats injected.

the carrot for useing meth are the following.

its equivalent ron rateing is much higher than pump petrol  its around  110   :smiley:
methanol mops up heat , the injected quantity allon with laten heat of vaporisation  drops intake charge temps very nicely on boosted cars can be a pita on NA cars in cold weather tho.
you need twice as much but its less than half the price.
even on a std compression engine you can see good power gains even on NA,  seen 15% gains on stock compression NA 16vs,   with turbo cars it allows  higer compression ratios, more boost, more spark  and reduces issues of heat soack  espectaly in drag raceing situations.

favoret mix todate is  49 % methanol  48% nitromethane 3% propolyene     (  that'll give you a big power NA valver that can scare the 20vt lot )

So where can I buy this gear. Any links? Also will my ecu regulate the mixture, or will I need yet another custom map?

Based on your response I really don't think you should be trusted with such information...

Everybody says that about me! Haha
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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #16 on: 25 September 2012, 23:33 »
some of my engines have run really high meth percentages.

tho mixing alcohol with petrol is not top favoret for me, problem being your alcohol needs to be completly dry to mix with petrol and moisture in it and it won't mix.  i prefer to use 2 fuel rails 1 with neat petrol and the other neat meth and use the ECU to control the percentage of whats injected.

the carrot for useing meth are the following.

its equivalent ron rateing is much higher than pump petrol  its around  110   :smiley:
methanol mops up heat , the injected quantity allon with laten heat of vaporisation  drops intake charge temps very nicely on boosted cars can be a pita on NA cars in cold weather tho.
you need twice as much but its less than half the price.
even on a std compression engine you can see good power gains even on NA,  seen 15% gains on stock compression NA 16vs,   with turbo cars it allows  higer compression ratios, more boost, more spark  and reduces issues of heat soack  espectaly in drag raceing situations.

favoret mix todate is  49 % methanol  48% nitromethane 3% propolyene     (  that'll give you a big power NA valver that can scare the 20vt lot )

So where can I buy this gear. Any links? Also will my ecu regulate the mixture, or will I need yet another custom map?

Based on your response I really don't think you should be trusted with such information...

Everybody says that about me! Haha

Indeed...


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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #17 on: 26 September 2012, 13:59 »
Cheeky c unt  :wink:
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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #18 on: 26 September 2012, 21:17 »
Can't wait to see the exploding engine videos on YouTube. :evil:

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Re: Adding methanol to your petrol....
« Reply #19 on: 26 September 2012, 21:24 »
Can't wait to see the exploding engine videos on YouTube. :evil:

Could do like a 5% dry mix, just to see if there are any noticeable benefits?  :whistle:
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