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Offline ggoodwin

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #10 on: 04 July 2012, 21:48 »
Thanks to all for the education.  Yes, they are 239mm and probably are rubbish.  I guess I'm used to them and they do seem to stop me ok but I do also know that when I drive my son's Mk4 GTi I nearly hit the screen on the first couple of times I brake!  This is more down to the relative firmness of the pedal though and I guess that is more down to me getting around to a brake fluid change and bleeding them properly.

I like the idea of the bigger brakes but I'm just not sure I can see myself changing the hubs and calipers as well at the moment.

If the calipers don't free up nicely though then it might be a different story  :smiley: .

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #11 on: 04 July 2012, 21:58 »
If it was me I would strip off the old discs and pads spend some time cleaning up the calipers & carriers...

Then stick on New OEM Vented Discs and New OEM Pads, bleed off the old brake fluid and that should do you fine...

I dare say that you feel the difference due to the MK4 having a much more modern braking system and calipers...

I fitted new OEM discs and pads in mine 3 years ago and still stops on a sixpence when needed...

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #12 on: 04 July 2012, 22:11 »
If it was me I would strip off the old discs and pads spend some time cleaning up the calipers & carriers...

Then stick on New OEM Vented Discs and New OEM Pads, bleed off the old brake fluid and that should do you fine...

Yes, I'm tempted to go this route.  When you say 'OEM' I presume you mean from VW?  I can be quite surprised at dealer prices, sometimes they can be very reasonable and then at other times....... :shocked: .

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #13 on: 04 July 2012, 22:34 »
If it was me I would strip off the old discs and pads spend some time cleaning up the calipers & carriers...

Then stick on New OEM Vented Discs and New OEM Pads, bleed off the old brake fluid and that should do you fine...

Yes, I'm tempted to go this route.  When you say 'OEM' I presume you mean from VW?  I can be quite surprised at dealer prices, sometimes they can be very reasonable and then at other times....... :shocked: .

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IMO - You get what you pay for....

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #14 on: 05 July 2012, 12:06 »
Sod that!! I paid £21.12 for a pair of 16v 256mm vented front disks from ecp last week. (With 30% discount), and they're as good as any others. Can't remember the make, but my pal said they're made by pagid..i Only go to vw for certain vw golf specific things, or oil + filter as its cheap, but not for generic things like pads and disks!! Unless they're reasonably priced, which I doubt they are!!

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #15 on: 05 July 2012, 14:46 »
Actually VW do now do an 'economy' line of discs and pads.

I think I have Pagid discs with some good 'OEM equivalent' pads on the Syncro.  I've never had any complaints.  The problem with the 239mm brakes is you'll reach the end of their talents with a standard 8V Golf, which is why people upgrade to aftermarket stuff.

What you'd be better off doing is moving up to either 256mm or 280mm vented brakes, with the hubs and carriers etc.  It is a move you will not regret, if you like stopping.
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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #16 on: 05 July 2012, 15:03 »
So they're the same as gsf/euro's/ local motor factor pattern ones, so unless they're actually reasonable with their pricing of them there's absolutely no reason to go to vw for them!! Yeah I agree, go 256/280 for a better setup that's future proofed for more speed

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #17 on: 05 July 2012, 18:13 »
Lots of VW service items are very reasonable, they were losing out massively to the likes of GSF/ECP some years ago, and decided to do something about it. Even if its a few quid more, I'd buy the OE stuff from VW for the correct paperwork alone!!! VW headed invoices look very impressive in the cars service history folder! :evil: :evil:

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #18 on: 05 July 2012, 18:16 »
Lots of VW service items are very reasonable, they were losing out massively to the likes of GSF/ECP some years ago, and decided to do something about it. Even if its a few quid more, I'd buy the OE stuff from VW for the correct paperwork alone!!! VW headed invoices look very impressive in the cars service history folder! :evil: :evil:

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Re: Brake disc rust channels
« Reply #19 on: 05 July 2012, 23:35 »
Thanks again guys for the input.  Lots to mull over there  :undecided: .  I'm going to take have a closer look at the calipers in the next couple of weeks and see what they're like and decide what to do from there.  I guess having driven these for the past 20+ years I've probably just got used to the brakes  :smiley: .

Graham