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Offline Rhyso

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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #20 on: 21 November 2011, 10:28 »
A 130 will remap to around 170 I believe but they can make more torque then a pd150.

i disagree with that.
but they do turn out very good.

Most of the dyno plots I've seen show the 150's making between 290 and 310lbs ft torque and 130's easily making over 300lbs ft

But that could be down to a number of things on the day etc

I was surprised when my 170 made over 300lbs ft :cool:

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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #21 on: 21 November 2011, 10:31 »
How does the clutch and gearbox stand up to 300ft ibs?  :grin:
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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #22 on: 21 November 2011, 10:39 »
How does the clutch and gearbox stand up to 300ft ibs?  :grin:

Depends on how its been driven previously

Steve_PD got 150K miles out of his clutch; approx of which 50% were remapped miles

I've currently done over 7000 miles in mine but I'm much more aware of how to feed the power in rather than just plant my foot all the time.

A standard clutch can take the power providing you drive it tidy.  Obviously its life span will be reduced

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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #23 on: 21 November 2011, 10:48 »
think im not going to bother getting remap or leon back and waiting a few month and get a golf 1 8t again back with the car i started with but a 3 door this time not a 5.

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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #24 on: 21 November 2011, 12:43 »
A 130 will remap to around 170 I believe but they can make more torque then a pd150.
i disagree with that.
but they do turn out very good.
Most of the dyno plots I've seen show the 150's making between 290 and 310lbs ft torque and 130's easily making over 300lbs ft
But that could be down to a number of things on the day etc
I was surprised when my 170 made over 300lbs ft :cool:

the differences bewteen 130 and 150 pd engine are negligible - main one being the intercooler.
the 130's seem more peaky and the 150's seem to hang on for longer - my 150 pd seems to like revving the full range while the 130's i've had seemed to die off



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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #25 on: 21 November 2011, 12:43 »
A 130 will remap to around 170 I believe but they can make more torque then a pd150.
i disagree with that.
but they do turn out very good.
Most of the dyno plots I've seen show the 150's making between 290 and 310lbs ft torque and 130's easily making over 300lbs ft
But that could be down to a number of things on the day etc
I was surprised when my 170 made over 300lbs ft :cool:

the differences bewteen 130 and 150 pd engine are negligible - main one being the intercooler.
the 130's seem more peaky and the 150's seem to hang on for longer -
my 150 pd seems to like revving the full range


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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #26 on: 21 November 2011, 12:47 »
to back up my waffle - read part way down to sk4tec
http://uk-mkivs.net/forums/p/182559/1204293.aspx

130 and 150 share everything apart from

turbo internals (130 runs a VA turbo 150 runs a VB turbo)
SMIC v's FMIC
OEM mapping to suit
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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #27 on: 21 November 2011, 12:56 »
Quick car, my mate had a Bora 130 remaped to around 165.

My golf was 195bhp.

The Bora raped me, end off! Torque is impressive only at 120 was I starting to gain on a straight strip. Had I known this at the time of buying a golf I would have chosen the PD. The 1.8t has more tuning options in the long run over the diesels which is when it will shine.


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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #28 on: 21 November 2011, 13:43 »
I'm well aware of the engine differences  :wink:

150 and the 170 units rev more like petrol engines.

My mate with a Fabia vRS which I mapped is quicker to a 100 than a 2.5 Z4

End of the day a lot of it is down to how its mapped and driver skill.  But you want AVERAGE power rather than silly peak BHP

Here's my 130 remapped



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Hopefully you can see exactly how the 150 / 170 units make their peak power much higher up

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Re: remapped bora 130 be equivalent to?
« Reply #29 on: 21 November 2011, 14:06 »
i agree......

i've had 3 different maps on the 150 i have now to get it smoothed out.
Was just too aggressive at about 2300 revs hence the new clutch route - a big spike of torque is unusable most of the time and a nightmare in wet

It's a balance of torque and power IMHO and driver skill that make a car quick

i've had 3 1.9 - 130's (all mapped 2 were ASZ and one was BLT) and this is my first 150PD - 150 does feel very revvy
and likes to pull right to red line without effort.

i've had both 140 (bkd) and 170 (BMN) 2.0 engines too but i think 1.9 is better 
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