correct you cant compare a turbo s3 lump to a vr6 n/a,but turbo the vr and its a different story my money would be on the 6 pot all day long
and the vr6 isn't a proper V, real V engines have more torque.
Quote from: AudiA8Quattro on 31 October 2011, 21:59and the vr6 isn't a proper V, real V engines have more torque.It is 15 degree from memory, amazing engine when you take one apart and see the engineering involved.
Dom, the A8 is 1700kg, its aluminium chassis so its not as heavy as people think. The transmission holds it back.Once it gets going, it is very very fast.The 1.8T isn't that fast, and the vr6 isn't a proper V, real V engines have more torque.
Quote from: AudiA8Quattro on 31 October 2011, 21:59Dom, the A8 is 1700kg, its aluminium chassis so its not as heavy as people think. The transmission holds it back.Once it gets going, it is very very fast.The 1.8T isn't that fast, and the vr6 isn't a proper V, real V engines have more torque.1.8T is fast in a mk3 or a mk 2 tho, really they are, and the VR engine is ALOT heavier than the 1.8T lump too.. the VR needs a turbo to be able to match a 1.8T powered Mk 2 or 3However, id say you would beat a 1.8T golf 4 un mapped if you was in a VR, Bens goes really well. feels fast than the last one i went in anyhow Would like to see bens mk 3 VR against Doms MK4.. that would be a interesting one
Quote from: F17BAD on 31 October 2011, 22:22Quote from: AudiA8Quattro on 31 October 2011, 21:59Dom, the A8 is 1700kg, its aluminium chassis so its not as heavy as people think. The transmission holds it back.Once it gets going, it is very very fast.The 1.8T isn't that fast, and the vr6 isn't a proper V, real V engines have more torque.1.8T is fast in a mk3 or a mk 2 tho, really they are, and the VR engine is ALOT heavier than the 1.8T lump too.. the VR needs a turbo to be able to match a 1.8T powered Mk 2 or 3However, id say you would beat a 1.8T golf 4 un mapped if you was in a VR, Bens goes really well. feels fast than the last one i went in anyhow Would like to see bens mk 3 VR against Doms MK4.. that would be a interesting oneYes a 1.8T remapped in a mk3 would be fast. The 1.8T is virtually same weight as a vr when all the extra bits are added on.All these cars would seem slow to you though now