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Offline tech1889

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Re: Valve damage?
« Reply #10 on: 24 October 2011, 22:20 »
Yes i agree they need to come out, im just ready to order a tool to get em out!
I'll only be using it the once, so dont want to spend mega money, but havnt used one before. Does this tool look suitable for it?

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Clarke-CHT462-OHV-Valve-Spring-Compressor-Tool-/150654846213?_trksid=p5197.m7&_trkparms=algo%3DLVI%26itu%3DUCI%26otn%3D4%26po%3DLVI%26ps%3D63%26clkid%3D3708805610206216923

I have a snap-on one like this ive never used it but friends of mine are mechanics and they only use ones like these as you dont need to tighten and loosen for hours very good piece of kit
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Offline clipperjay

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Re: Valve damage?
« Reply #11 on: 25 October 2011, 10:25 »
Hmm what would cause them to stick mate? Carbon and such is it? would your advice be to get them out and cleaned up?
Also, my haynes says not to grind the valves on a 16valver, why is this?

It could be carbon, but more likely to be a bent valve causing friction.
The only way I know to determine a bent valve is to do a compression first before strip down to determine if the pressure is all over the place or no pressure at all? Then I would proceed to strip our valves, springs and piston rings to see if I can see the culprit. (in between do a wet compression test with light oil to see if it goes past the rings)
But generally I clean up carbonised parts with "OVEN CLEANER" All I do is mark them up so I remember the order they go in or get plastic bags mark them one to four then spray oven cleaner foam into the bags then leave them over night. By morning you will be shocked how clean they have become after the Oven Gnomes have done their job!   :wink:

Honning is for any scratch marks on the crown bores the valves sit in (proberly due to bent valves).
Valves are cleaned via chemicals! using abrassive material on the valves could cause damage hence chemical clean. Some people just polish them up afterwards with a very soft buffer pad nothing that will take material away from the valves as the valves clearance is specific and to the micron!
A clean valve is easier to inspect for damage than a carbonised one! Worst case you buy a new set if the carbon was holding them together. Remember the valves are sodium filled so if they break that stuff is not nice LOL!

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Re: Valve damage?
« Reply #12 on: 26 October 2011, 19:47 »
Some nice cleaning tips there! As soon as the compression tool comes ill try getting them out and ill try cleaning them without friction as you've suggested ;)
Ill let you know how i get on!
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Re: Valve damage?
« Reply #13 on: 26 October 2011, 20:02 »
most likely to be the cam being to tight i would of thought , not torqued down to the right torque will cause the cam to bind maybe evenseize completely after time , it happed to a mates vauxhall and snapped the cambelt tensioner 

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Re: Valve damage?
« Reply #14 on: 29 October 2011, 23:17 »
Out of interest, did you buy the compressor you posted or the one I suggested as I took a look at a 16V head I have in the garage today and Im doubly sure the one you posted wont work  :undecided:.

Secondly, check the inlet cam cap at the flywheel end to check its on the right way up. It should have the audi markings at the top when looking from the inlet side (guess who has just realised why the ABF in the garage's cams wouldnt turn lol).

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Re: Valve damage?
« Reply #15 on: 02 November 2011, 21:08 »
Just a tip: I check for bent valves by leaving the plugs in, turn cam til both/all four valves are shut, pour petrol onto head chambers. If the fluid remains, they're sealing fine. If it leaks, the valves are bent or need decoking etc.

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Re: Valve damage?
« Reply #16 on: 03 November 2011, 23:38 »
i ther turnthem to to TDC valvs shut on that cyl and connect and airline to where the plug was, you'll soon hear a bent valve, or it just take the cams out
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