contemplating 20 valves for 8 valve gti

[danny_p]

was thinking of useing the audi s2 5 cyl lump       i don't fancy doing a spaceframe as if i was going to do that id rather just build the whole thing from scratch and i dont have a tube notcher so it'd be a tedious  pita to do it right.

engine would be going in transverse,  if i switched it to north south layout i wouldn't be abel to fight the urge to mid mount the engine and itd end up with a spaceframe.

TC as for the frount engined RWD ABF,   need to find a porshe donor to cut up and also need to find some more abf's.

jay,  good point need to go pick the syncro up at some point ( well the shell anyway)

[DOA]

 i don't fancy doing a spaceframe as if i was going to do that id rather just build the whole thing from scratch and i dont have a tube notcher so it'd be a tedious  pita to do it right.

Use square tube and buy in the bent tubes for the cage:wink:. You know it makes sense!

[tech1889]

If you go down the spaceframe route that is going to cost thousands as your going to have to change the whole rear end..

I have a mate with a mk2 van with a N/A rs4 engine i can get pics and info if you want ??

[DOA]

Nah, it wont cost thousands if he can do most of the work which should be doable. Grab a BMW 3 series LSD rear end complete with subframe and bolt it up to the frame. Use something like an MX5 front end the same way and beef it up where necessary (brakes) and bolt that lot up to a spaceframe/roll cage chassis that the body drops onto. Doable for very little money, its just the time and effort that costs  .

[danny_p]

there is a really good littel web based program on metalgeek,   

http://metalgeek.com/static/cope.pcgi

print on avery label and plasma away     saved me loads of f**king about.

as for the 3 seires bits got a sick E46 hanging about that can be pillaged so thats a possoblity for some of the bits if needed. 

anyway did a bit of work on the mk2 today just swaped out the completly dead motor for a sick but running one so it's easyer to move about for the moment.  and ripped all the trim off the outside to see what sort of TLC it needs

pics and info of the mk2 van would be intresting,   also need to dig out infomation on what sort of handeling chariteristics the diffrent layouts give,  i rember from grasstrack cars that mid engine mounted inline useing audi box  turn in was allways a big problem

[DOA]

as for the 3 seires bits got a sick E46 hanging about that can be pillaged so thats a possoblity for some of the bits if needed. 

Its worth checking how many e46's were fitted with LSD's, you wouldnt want to do it RWD without one. The E36 rear ends are much easier to find LSD's for and the ramps are quite easy to modify to get different on/off throttle charicteristics as well as being easy to modify the preload.

As for layout, Front engined = predictable but very slidey (unless you can get weight right to the back) and Mid engined = predictable till it goes, then hang on for dear life. Id go front engined, think old toyota starlet style handling. Oh yeah, mid engined = bloody noisy and loads of hassle firewalling the rear end, plus the hassle of sending the coolant lines to the rad at the front.

[danny_p]

usefull info about setting up the e36 diff

thimking if i go rwd    i'll cut the fire wall about a bit and get the engine back more,    i'll be up the auctions looking for a donour,  but if i went mid motor i chould just recycel the old a4  for bits