Is this a fair offer?........

[evo1986]

i believe all sales are slow at the min my bro area sales manager at perrys mazda and september is usually his best month but its looking very bleek for him and his sales team at the min

Spoke to my mate who went to work for Mazda is south Wales they are on there arse. Volkswagen on other hand is a very busy place we sell 25-30 cars every week and could do alot more if we could get the stock.

[evo1986]

Have a look first thing in morning. Ed 35's can't even be ordered yet till maybe Tuesday and no stock what so ever. So must be 3 door dsg in those colours will try and find something or put you in touch with where a stock car may lie in wait.

Lee

[The Doc]

Evo, one of my lads is after a GTI

Spec

Must have

3 doors
White, black or carbon grey
DSG
Winter
Flat tyre

What you got?

Would consider more spec or ed35 if you have any?

Good start to your forum trading 

[The Doc]

Have a look first thing in morning. Ed 35's can't even be ordered yet till maybe Tuesday and no stock what so ever. So must be 3 door dsg in those colours will try and find something or put you in touch with where a stock car may lie in wait.

Lee

Cool, forget the 35 then 

Give me a call when you know and thank you 

[evo1986]

Would they wait for factory order? Or consider a used one aswell?

[The Doc]

Factory no, used yes If it's priced sensibly 

I've got a nice '60 plate 5 door gti in carbon with nav, leather and DSG coming but he really, really wants a 3 door, hey ho 

[PenguinGTI]

2 Aspects to this Lee that people seem to be picking up on. The first - and most relevant - is whether the discount you are offering is reasonable on the car you are selling. 10% is a fairly decent offer but I will be honest and say that I'm the type of person that always looks for just a bit more. I think if you offered some courtesies such as a free full tank of fuel or some paintwork protection then it might be the icing on the cake. I do think however that in terms of actual *money off* I think you're deal is pretty good.

The second aspect is the nigh-on-incredulous prices of the cars. I have to be honest and say that £27k for a diesel Golf is a bit daft. In no way do I wish to criticise the GTD as it is a fantastic car but at the end of the day, it's a 2.0 TDI Golf with different seats, a bodykit and some badges. I have heard recently the advert on the radio for the "fantastic VW value" which lets people get into a new Golf for £14k. I have to laugh when I then read about a diesel Golf priced just under £30k. So with the spec list you provided and a budget of £30k I went shopping...

Here's what I found (all spec'd brand new on the manufacturer's website). Where I was unable to specify an option I have mentioned it:

BMW 320d ES Saloon (182HP) minus colour multifunction display, flat tyre indicator and dynaudio £29,980

BMW 120d ES Coupe (174HP) minus colour multifunction display, flat tyre indicator and dynaudio £26,175

BMW 120d Sport Hatch (181HP) £27,770

Audi A3 Sport 2.0 TDI (170HP) £25,585

Audi A3 Sport 2.0 TDI (170HP) Quattro minus colour multifunction display £27,130

Seat Leon FR 2.0 TDI (170HP) minus colour multifunction display, flat tyre indicator and dynaudio £21,710

Vauxhall Astra GTC SRI 2.0 CDTI (165PS) minus colour multifunction display, cruise control and flat tyre indicator £23,560

Ford Focus Titanium X 2.0 TDCI (163PS) minus colour multifunction display and flat tyre indicator but with metallic paint £22,745

*These are just list prices and quite possibly could be haggled to lower figures.

Now I started the list with some cars which are more in keeping with the 'prestige' of the GTD badge. BMW don't do proper 'M' diesels (not yet anyway) so I just picked an engine with the closest amount of power to the Golf. I then progressed to the A3 and the FR - both siblings to the Golf - although Audi don't do a special badged diesel model. I then looked at cars which might compete with the Golf in terms of size although if I'm honest then the Vauxhall and Ford can probably be dismissed on terms of quality.

My point however is that for the nigh on £30k that VW want for that particularly spec'd GTD, there are some seriously tempting options from other marques and the cars which are perhaps the truest rivals to the Golf (namely the Astra and the Focus) are both seriously cheaper.

Wake up VW!

[Exonian]

 An excellent post there Mr Penguin, very well thought out and researched.

BUT this quote from Lee says it all:

Spoke to my mate who went to work for Mazda is south Wales they are on there arse. Volkswagen on other hand is a very busy place we sell 25-30 cars every week and could do alot more if we could get the stock.

People obviously want VWs, and they want them badly enough to pay for them. Now I'm not for a minute going to assume I'm a typical car buyer because I'm pretty much the opposite of that!! But I used to work in the trade many years ago and know how the market has changed completely in that time. Modern car buyers are well catered for by VW et al with their slick hire contracts. Not many people pay cash from their savings for a car in this day and age and the previous generation's post war 'if you can't afford it don't have it' attitude has now long gone. Modern society is a borrowing society (and interest on savings is a non starter anyway) so people have contracts for everything. List price isn't looked at by many buyers as that significant, they merely look at how they are going to manage to pay the monthly rental on their desired consumer product.
I'll compare the Golf GTI/D/R (possibly Golfs in general as they seem pretty much in demand whatever model) with an iPhone. For whatever reason they are held in high esteem by the population in general despite their high price and people will be prepared to pay quite a high monthly contract charge on the thing just so they can be seen with one. Many of these people will never use the full features of the product and will in private cristise the thing and the whole charade but due to pressure from various angles (fashion, marketing etc) they feel compelled to 'own' one.
So there's an awful lot of people out there who pay £40+ a month on an iPhone contract that would get by just as happily with a £10 a month contract with an equally impressive phone from a less trendy brand.
And the same goes with houses which have been forced up in price massively thanks to our borrowing culture and the 'must have' mentality drilled in to consumers.

So fair play Apple and VW, you've played us a blinder, well done!

[carl1]

Seems a decent spec but i think one thing that lets it down is that its red. I like red gti's gtd's but i wouldn't buy one, if that car was black or carbon grey it would sell itself. Their have been 3 brand new unregistered red gti's on Autotrader for 2/3 months now not big spec i know but with discount, i guarantee if they were black or carbon grey they would have sold within 2-3 weeks. I would have brought one for a start 

[evo1986]

Factory allocation all sold now sold 2nd edition 35 of the week : ) Now if he orders his GTD when on earth is it going to arrive.........no allocation left for this month or next yet................