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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #10 on: 07 September 2011, 08:50 »

something not right about them graphs, why is the info chopped off on the far right????

dont agree with the figures either, seems all wrong to me


It seems you looking at it on an iPhone as I can only see half the graph, Scrub that I can only see half with my PC aswell.
this graph is not my graph it's an independant tuner who can actually write an me7.5 maps and fully understands the ecu.



The spec1 result is the exact same as I got on my dyno, which read the same as the jkm dd, (as Adam knows). 

Can you explain to everyone why you don't agree?

If you click on the source of the graph you will find all the logs that go with the run, boost, lambda and air flow, then using mathematics ( not maf /.8) but air in lbs you will see they are correct.

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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #11 on: 07 September 2011, 09:07 »
Are you saying Badger bill writes your maps then?


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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #12 on: 07 September 2011, 09:20 »
The full graph link

http://www.seatcupra.net/forums/showthread.php?t=289160


I ran a Bora with an AMK S3 engine yesterday, we started to custom map it but soon ran in to hardware issues, The car is also running the exact same map with the badger5 tip.  I will post the graph up in 2 mins



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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #13 on: 07 September 2011, 09:24 »
Are you saying Badger bill writes your maps then?

No.. The S3 in question was mapped here on my rolling road with a spec1 map which I wrote,  then went to badger5 to have the tip fitted and tested.    I was saying that Bill understands the ecus and mapping which means during the rolling road session he can crunch the number from the logs and make a mental picture of whats going on, check the link and you will see what I mean.



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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #14 on: 07 September 2011, 09:42 »
From a AMK in a Bora with the Badger5 tip and same mapping as Dane's S3.  Not got a full run yet as the car is in for a full custom remap and after 5 mins hardware issues started to crop up which caused the throttle cut at the end of the run.




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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #15 on: 07 September 2011, 10:48 »
the AMK in bora, is that standard engine on oem management but with just a TIP and your custom map ?
did you run temp probe in the air intake when on the rollers ?

im a bit funny about all rolling road results now as they are too easy to fix, (im not saying you have or do this btw :smiley:).. i like to see a 3rd party temp gauge showing date,time, humidity and temp etc that matches up with any dyno results, date, time, humidity etc... :smiley:
  


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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #16 on: 07 September 2011, 11:07 »
the AMK in bora, is that standard engine on oem management but with just a TIP and your custom map ?
did you run temp probe in the air intake when on the rollers ?

im a bit funny about all rolling road results now as they are too easy to fix, (im not saying you have or do this btw :smiley:).. i like to see a 3rd party temp gauge showing date,time, humidity and temp etc that matches up with any dyno results, date, time, humidity etc... :smiley:

Hello,

The Bora is mine  :smiley:

It's running on OEM management and has a whole raft of mods i.e. FMIC, Pipewerx 3" down pipe, and a Badger5 TIP. It will be getting custom mapped but as Nick said we are experiencing hardware issues at the moment with it.

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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #17 on: 07 September 2011, 12:31 »
dude i have AMK in my MK3

i had more torque than you before i had mine custom mapped (which is still a work in prtogress and will be completed end of this month)

i have a custom 3" downpipe made by trackslag, full Jetex exhaust system, No CAT, N249 delete, 007, Front mount intercooler, K&N reocated out of the bay, brand new MAF etc  40k on the engine bla bla

standard i got the 210bhp but i was well up on torque - more than what yours is now in fact (it was 230ibft)

im now upto around the 250hp mark and over 280ibft, gonna keep the torque capped at this as it is very brutal in my mk3 (alot lighter than your Bora)

what hardware issues you having ?
  


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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #18 on: 07 September 2011, 12:44 »
I know I've read your thread.

As Nick has posted that the remap was only put on as a base map and those figures will change given that the car isn't running right, so also a work in progress.

Mine has 3" down pipe with 100cpsi sports cat, milltek cat-back, badger 5 tip, jetex cone filter, n249 delete, fmic, etc etc all the usual mods you do before mapping a 1.8T. Engine has 26K on the clock.

I'm having PCV issues.

My Bora is 4motion so I'm sure whatever the final result is it will be able to put it down to the road.
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Re: S3 225 Remap?
« Reply #19 on: 07 September 2011, 13:34 »
dude i have AMK in my MK3

i had more torque than you before i had mine custom mapped (which is still a work in prtogress and will be completed end of this month)

i have a custom 3" downpipe made by trackslag, full Jetex exhaust system, No CAT, N249 delete, 007, Front mount intercooler, K&N reocated out of the bay, brand new MAF etc  40k on the engine bla bla

standard i got the 210bhp but i was well up on torque - more than what yours is now in fact (it was 230ibft)

im now upto around the 250hp mark and over 280ibft, gonna keep the torque capped at this as it is very brutal in my mk3 (alot lighter than your Bora)

what hardware issues you having ?


I dont need to fudge numbers on a dyno... JKM rolling road days and other forum rr events have backed it up for me over the years, BS dyno numbers will always come back and bite the tuner in the backside.

The torque is low as its only a spec1 map peaking to 16psi, its not had no custom map tweaks yet as the PCV is causing issuse.

Who custom mapped your car and and are they me7.5 specialists?

What TIP are you running? Forge? as the only tips I have seen to flow well are the 3" ones?

What are your blocks 60 & 115 & 114 vs N75dc% reading (a good sign how will the actuator is running)  What condition did your tuner say the actuator was is going from the load logs? Is the peak load request being match and is the n75% running 78-88% top end or is it 95%?

What is your MAF reading vs and the fuel dump over 4000rpm?  (As this can easy kill the power by getting the lambda wrong, ie running stock protection maps on a stage2 with decats)  If you look at the logs you will see the fuel is perfect for best best performance

Post up your logs and I will tell you whats going on with your car why is not making 250bhp more?

If you want you can pop down for a free dyno run and a logging session and I will give you a full report on how your car is acting and why you cannot get over 250bhp.  I am 100% sure to shed some light on the matter so you can go sort the issues go back to your tuner and get more power, but with just the stock forge tip the limit I see is around 250bhp peak.

Lots of factors which only a good logging session will find out... a remap will only work upto the hardware limits of the car and no more.
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