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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #10 on: 23 August 2011, 21:42 »
LP is like a 'paint cleanser', but classed as polish I believe. So slot the LP in where it says polish!!

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Thats correct, LP goes where it says polish......Scarrs spot on.

The only thing I would add is this.... Put the products on lightly, less is more when it comes to these products. Just ensure you apply them evenly. If your using a foam applicator to apply the wax I suggest you dampen the applicator and apply in thin layers. Apply it too think and its hard work to remove, trust me  :rolleyes: I applied it thick the first time I used wax and it took ages to remove.

I am a bit confused. The bottle says it creates the perfect surface for wax application which is why i thought it should be used pre wax stage after sealent.
However, if you guys think its the polish stage then ill give it a go
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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #11 on: 23 August 2011, 22:21 »
Basically yes. It does create a fantastically clean and very smooth surface for a good layer of wax, wait til you feel the glass like results!  :smiley: You plan to then use a glaze and then a sealant and then a wax. This is a very very thorough detail by the sounds of things! The LP will be good before you apply the glaze. If you used the LP after the glaze and then sealant it would pretty much strip off all of the hard work you put in, especially if you will be using the LP with micro abrasives in... :smiley:

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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #12 on: 23 August 2011, 23:06 »
Basically yes. It does create a fantastically clean and very smooth surface for a good layer of wax, wait til you feel the glass like results!  :smiley: You plan to then use a glaze and then a sealant and then a wax. This is a very very thorough detail by the sounds of things! The LP will be good before you apply the glaze. If you used the LP after the glaze and then sealant it would pretty much strip off all of the hard work you put in, especially if you will be using the LP with micro abrasives in... :smiley:

ok thanks. that is what i shall do.
wash clay lime glaze seal and then purple haze it. looking back at a pre order email  waxamomo had suggested the lime prime as a polish so...
thanks for all the help. I need a nice sunny day.
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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #13 on: 24 August 2011, 09:06 »
Not too sunny! Its best NOT to apply these products onto a hot panel....... The ideal detailing weather is a normal day, overcast but with no chance of rain  :smiley:

Applying most products to a hot panel can cause them to "bake" on which can make them very difficult to remove.
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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #14 on: 24 August 2011, 09:10 »
Not too sunny! Its best NOT to apply these products onto a hot panel....... The ideal detailing weather is a normal day, overcast but with no chance of rain  :smiley:

Applying most products to a hot panel can cause them to "bake" on which can make them very difficult to remove.

Understood. Thank you
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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #15 on: 24 August 2011, 09:13 »
Most product labels say apply to a cool surface in the shade if possible......

In the summer I wash my car late at night, just when the sun's going down but its still light. I hose the car down with cold water to ensure all the panels are cool then when Im happy they are I can start with the snow foam etc etc

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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #16 on: 24 August 2011, 10:54 »
you dont want to be applying lp if your using black hole they do the same job.

i would put black hole under jetseal as it is less oily than lime prime and the jesteal will sit better on it?

clay polish and seal will be plenty.. but a layer or 2 of wax will help durabilty but not add a great deal to the finish.

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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #17 on: 24 August 2011, 21:52 »
stupid question alert...

up to now ive thought the sealant went over the wax, to lock it in, but saying that, isnt wax meant to be a 'sealant'?

i can understand sealing in the gloss coat, but if you then use sealant, whats the point of wax?  :huh:

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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #18 on: 24 August 2011, 22:14 »
in basic terms sealant and wax are to protect the finish left by the polish or glaze.

you can...
polish/glaze
seal

or...
polish/glaze
wax

or...

polish/glaze
seal
wax


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Re: advice for first detail
« Reply #19 on: 25 August 2011, 10:11 »
in basic terms sealant and wax are to protect the finish left by the polish or glaze.

you can...
polish/glaze
seal

or...
polish/glaze
wax

or...

polish/glaze
seal
wax



Doing the latter here will just give you ultimate protection. So when the wax wears through the sealant will still be around to offer some beadage!