BT Ordered to Block Pirate Sites

[JulesS3]

If i like a film ill usually purchase on bluray afterwards. I like the extras and the quality and owning the case.
If its crap i wont bother buying it obviously.
I also recommend films to friends who buy them on my reviews to them, they wouldnt otherwise do this; especially blurays due to the price. My friend has spent a few hundred quid based on my advice from seeing films i have acquired then bought myself.

I pay for spotify so tend to use that for music, il buy albums from my favourite artists to support them, as well as download so i have a digital copy.

[Kerrse]

I pay for all my music as i worked in the record industry for a long time so saw how a lot of producers struggled to make a good living. I am not so good when it comes to films as i think itunes is stupidly overpriced i dont understand why a digital copy cost the same as a dvd as there is no manufacturing costs as such. I suaully delete the films after watching so think of it as borrowing a copy from a friend then returning it 

[Jay]

We're a LONG way from the level of censorship in China. This is just trying to prevent a law being broken.

Any steps towards censorship is a step to far. These measures the government are taking are purely political and look good to the common man and will stop the occasional downloader until their mate tells them of another way round it, there is no way to stop pirates other than taking down the internet. As long as traffic can pass over the internet there will be pirates.

People do lots of things they shouldn't, but for some reason or another the government can't stop them.

PS: All those that say they bought a CD and it got damaged so they downloaded a MP3 of it, that's more legal than making an MP3 from a CD you've bought. It is even printed on all CD's

Remember kids, it's illegal to share content but not to download it. But it doesn't make it right*




*The last time I looked into it and have not seen or heard of any changes to the law regarding this. Correct me if I'm wrong

[golf-sib]

Nothing new, we moan at how China doesn't allow freedom with their control off the internet. Yet no one made a deal or made a comment on when a law was passed months ago about the government has power to blacklist/block sites it deems a threat... which is the same as what we hypocrite about other national like China.

[Diamond Hell]

Any steps towards censorship is a step to far.

This isn't censorship, this is preventing distribution of illegal materials.

If action was taken to stop Chinese brake pads made of cheese in VAG Genuine boxes being sold, would this be censorship or consumer protection?  It's quite a similar scenario.

[Jay]

I wrote to my MP, Ed Lazy I mean Ed Vaizey about the Digital Economy Act. Being a tw@t, I mean politician, he doesn't see the totalitarian measures the government are taking.

Any steps towards censorship is a step to far.

This isn't censorship, this is preventing distribution of illegal materials.

If action was taken to stop Chinese brake pads made of cheese in VAG Genuine boxes being sold, would this be censorship or consumer protection?  It's quite a similar scenario.

Fair point, but any steps they take to stop access to information is censorship, who is going to say what sites to block ? A bunch of politicians being told what to do by the aids ? If it were that bad why did BT and Talk Talk appeal the decision 3 times ?

Taking action to stop cheese brake pads is a matter of health and safety.

[Kerrse]

I wrote to my MP, Ed Lazy I mean Ed Vaizey about the Digital Economy Act. Being a tw@t, I mean politician, he doesn't see the totalitarian measures the government are taking.

Any steps towards censorship is a step to far.

This isn't censorship, this is preventing distribution of illegal materials.

If action was taken to stop Chinese brake pads made of cheese in VAG Genuine boxes being sold, would this be censorship or consumer protection?  It's quite a similar scenario.

Fair point, but any steps they take to stop access to information is censorship, who is going to say what sites to block ? A bunch of politicians being told what to do by the aids ? If it were that bad why did BT and Talk Talk appeal the decision 3 times ?

Taking action to stop cheese brake pads is a matter of health and safety.

I can understand the blocking of some sites for example child porn, extremist sites but i agree it is a tricky road as who decides what is acceptable.

[JulesS3]

To be fair anyone with a bit of IT knowledge can bypass these 'blocks'

None of this bothers me that much, there will always be something new. I remember when napster was shut down and every one thought that was it, the end of downloading.
They also say you will be sent letters or blocked for excessive downloading but with virgin successfully testing 1.5 GB a sec download speeds (a long way off i know) how can they tell if im streaming legally or acquiring a few bluray films?

[Mk1Macca]

To those complaining about the margins some companies make, suck it up. Would you do your job if all you ever got paid was the bare minimum to cover your costs? Of course not.

what's the choice working to survive or claiming job seekers 

So your logic is, because you've paid for music in the past, you shouldn't have to pay for it now?

what about downloading music you've already paid for?  I've had CDs in the past that have gotten scratched, I've already aid for this so why can't I download it?

To the person who said "I only download it to evaluate it first". Seriously? You honestly expect anyone to believe you download a song of acceptable quality, then if you like it, you go and purchase it legitimately?

believe what you want, the stack of CDs on my shelves says otherwise 

Downloading copyrighted material is illegal, simple as.

wrong, I suggest you actually read up on copyright law before making such statements

Please, get off your high horse.

My comment suggested that if the margins weren't decent enough to warrant doing, the product wouldn't continue to exist. Implying that people should be happy to just work to survive is ridiculous.

If you lost or damaged the CD of course you should be expected to pay for it again! If you dropped your mobile and smashed it, should you be allowed to just steal another one to replace it because you paid for one before?

And sorry, to correct my last statement - as you seem to think it makes a difference to what I was trying to say: Distribution, duplication, broadcast or public performance of copyrighted material without the copyright owners explicit consent is illegal.

[Jay]

how can they tell if im streaming legally or acquiring a few bluray films?

Quite easily with packet filtering, though it would increase latency.