vento vr6 oil in water problems - help

[DECKED-MK3-DUB]

Yeah i had a feeling that was the case, no point in comming this far then cutting corners...

I have a new gear box to go in any how so i will prob drop engine and box out as a job lot on the subframe i think....

Any body know a place who does a complete chain timing kit ?? or is it a main dealer jobbie buying it all as seperates ??

Thanks guys...

[Wayne]

I have a new gear box to go in any how so i will prob drop engine and box out as a job lot on the subframe i think....

Yep best to drop the whole lot down in one go.

Any body know a place who does a complete chain timing kit ?? or is it a main dealer jobbie buying it all as seperates ??

I would start with VW and go from there, at least with genuine you know what you got it is not really a job you want to do twice.

[DECKED-MK3-DUB]

I decided to leave the block in the car, now the heads off and all the front of the car it was easy to drop gear box off..
I ordered new guides, i didnt bother with the chain as its a double link chain which is pretty strong.. The whole kit inc sprockets and chains, tensioners etc is over £400... More than what the cars worth tbh..

Ill take my chances on the chains and just replace all the guides since 2 of mine where broken so really was a good job i took the head off else few hundred miles it woulda stopped with a bang 

Just goes to show even with full service history by vw them selfs and only 100 k on clock the chains and guides still suffer... The guide that runs tensioner side on mine had worn away to nothing just showing the metal rivits on a peice of plastic lol, gonna take the lower timing cover off tomoz or thursday to see if theres any more damage behind there   

Must say thou, the vr6 heads are a doddle to get off, timing chain is fiddly but if you wernt going to change them or the guides then head gasket job is easy... Good old german n sweedish provided all my bits... There dirt cheap and elring gaskets which are a good make...

[Wayne]

You are crazy to not replace the chain, it is well know for breaking or stretching.

Even with new tensioners your running the risk of a big failure.

[DECKED-MK3-DUB]

You are crazy to not replace the chain, it is well know for breaking or stretching.

Even with new tensioners your running the risk of a big failure.

Ok, any idea where i can get sum cheap chains... Do both chains need replacing or just the double linked cam chain ??

[AudiA8Quattro]

Even though the chains may not fail, i would still replace the whole lot, chains/guides/tensioners.
It may be expensive, but peace of mind is what its about.
Have you tried vw? or maybe GSF/ECP sell it.

[DECKED-MK3-DUB]

I finished taking the gear box off today,to then find out the clutch and fly wheel also need to come off to gain access to the lower timing cover...  crazy design...

Long and short of it, your all right, whats the point in doing head gasket, clutch, timing guides, and god knows what else if the chains are going to fail...

I rang tps in exeter as we have a account with them and to my supprise it was dirt cheap 

Double chain £40
single chain £40
4 x guides £52..

Got the whole lot for £132 delivered and is going to be here friday morning 

Im not going to replace the sprockets, becasue the cost is spiriling outta control as it is, i bought the car as a long term project but i just cant resist fiddling at lunch times and after work and now im desperate to have her on the rd ready for run to the sun...

I wish now i took the engine out, i got all the front off the car, the head and manifolds, all hoses, battery, gear box, clutch, fly wheel the list goes on, cars surrounded in nut and bolts... Guess im lucky to have a work shop to do it in...

A few pics if any ones interested...
Shortly after starting


inlets off


Head off


And my broken timing guide


It obvious that the chain is streched hense why its chewed the top guide off...

[Wayne]

Not a bad price for the chains in the end, well worth doing.

[DECKED-MK3-DUB]

Yer your right mate... Gsf told me they didnt have the chains for the vr6 but the web site says bottom chain £20 and top chain £30...

I got a genuine vw kit in end and for £132 all in im pleased, got the savage job now of putting it all bk together....

I gotta change the sump cus my one has a huge dent init so tempted to change ring and shells since the engines totaly in bit really.. Where do you stop thou lol.... 

[DECKED-MK3-DUB]

After removing the lower chain today i noticed that the guide for that chain was broken in 4 peices...

Any body with a vr6 take note !!!! they do strech and break guides...